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Click pic to view comments - Confirmed sighting: Bassett's Aniseed Imperials Confirmed sighting: Bassett's Aniseed Imperials/ Maynards Sports Mixture
Posted: 13:12 Sun 24-Apr-2005. Price: "about 50p". Location: Birmingham city centre. Nutritional unusualness: 98g of carbs per 100g of sweets. And sugar is the top ingredient. And aniseed not actually mentioned in the ingredients at all. I guess it's one of the"Flavourings".
"David Gregory" reports: I assumed they would be chewy, but in fact when you've sucked through the glossy coating the inside is hard and crumbles into neat sugar in seconds. So for all those of you who've been getting sticky pockets carrying around large bags of aniseed sugar because you like the taste... well now Bassett's have come up with an alernative in convenient tablet form. For the rest of us who probably don't want our sugar rushes to come with an aniseed aftertaste (and BOY does it linger) give them a miss.

...I haven't really been keeping up with the "aniseed sugar" situation recently, so thanks to "David Gregory" for this update - while, in other aniseed-flavoured anxieties, "biskitz4cheez" brags: As a fan of [Maynards Sports Mixture - formerly known as Lion Original Sports Mixture], I have been sent a pre-release sample pack. The disturbing aspect to this takeover is that the liquorice gum has been replaced by a blackcurrant one, described as a "deliciously fruity alternative [...] destined to become a firm favourite" according to the accompanying mailshot. Whilst this may well be an alternative, it is not, in my opinion, "deliciously fruity" - it tastes similar to a blackcurrant throat pastille. Not only that, but the liquorice gum made Sports Mixture unique - four fruit flavours and liquorice. If it was good enough for Lions, it should be good enough for Maynards. Why must people tamper with established confectionery?

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Posted: 19:27 Sun 24-Apr-2005 by "jb" # permalink comment
Comment: These have been around for ages, never tried them, though. I think the chewy expectation might be due to those aniseed pastilles in liquorice allsorts
Posted: 23:34 Sun 24-Apr-2005 by "Mike Gray" # permalink comment
Comment: Just to echo the "been around for ages" comment. These have been round for years, surely?
Posted: 08:47 Mon 25-Apr-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: As for Sports Mixture, these have been in shops for a week or two now. And far be it from me to support the overthrow of independent sweet makers by giant conglomerates of evil like Trebor Bassett (owners of Maynards and most of your favourite confectionery brands), but the liquorice ones were always disgusting, and the blackcurrant ones do indeed taste of throat lozenges - but specifically, the gorgeous Boots blackcurrant throat lozenges that I used to occasionally buy as a sweet, whether I had a sore throat or not. (Sometimes medicine can be a tasty treat too, kids!) So I for one salute our new Maynards overlords. As long as they don't also try to switch the lime ones for fricking apple.
Posted: 12:42 Mon 25-Apr-2005 by "Dave" # permalink comment
Comment: Yes, I used to eat them when I was a child - but they were always hard to get hold of. They were a deep rust red then, have they changed to pink?
Posted: 15:55 Mon 25-Apr-2005 by "Kim" # permalink comment
Comment: Completely off topic here, but has there ever been a sighting of Exotic Skittles? Found some in a local papershop the other day and they were really quite delicious. I forgot to keep the box, though, annoyingly.
Posted: 18:33 Wed 27-Apr-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Stuart - sorry to hear that you found the liquorice gums 'disgusting'! (however, from a man who bought blackcurrant throat lozenges as a child just for the taste, your confectionery tastes are perhaps questionable). Anyway, all is not lost - bags of Lion Liquorice gums are still available, so, for the time being at least, all I have to do is count out the blackcurrant gums from the new bags and replace them with an equivalent number of liquorice ones. Unfortunately, they're not the same shape as the those that were in Sports Mixture, but I'll have to tolerate this slight drawback. However, whether or not Maynards will continue to produce the liquorice gums will no doubt become apparent in due course. On a grammatically pedantic note (one of my favourite pastimes - see http://www.snackspot.org.uk/thread.php?story=0308260955cas), I was disappointed to note that 'liquorice' was spelled 'licorice' on the front of the bag, but in the traditional way as 'liquorice' in the list of ingredients. Let's hope Maynards show more consistency if they release their own version...
Posted: 16:45 Sat 07-May-2005 by "trevor"
(apparently posting from 213.48.74.195: 213-48-74-195.bra.cvx.blueyonder.co.uk) # permalink comment
Comment: It's worth noting that the other sports mixture flavours have also changed slightly. As a life-long lover of Lions Sports Mixture i am bitterly dissapointed and will no longer purchase these pale maynards immitations.
Posted: 15:08 Tue 10-May-2005 by "ed" # permalink comment
Comment: YES!!! BRING BACK THE LIQUORICE AND STOP MESSING WITH MY FAVOURITE SWEETIES! THEY'VE MADE THEM TOO SOFT AS WELL. Everyone-Petition your MP & Maynards on this issue of national importance.
Posted: 09:04 Wed 11-May-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Perhaps 'snackspot' could be the vehicle for a 'bring back the liquorice' campaign? Do you think Maynards would take notice? I had a similar problem with Jacobs Cheeselets once...
Posted: 12:02 Wed 11-May-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Perhaps you could SHUT UP.
Posted: 13:23 Wed 11-May-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: hmmm... obviously not interested in the Cheeselets scenario then!
Posted: 16:07 Fri 13-May-2005 by "Alex" # permalink comment
Comment: And who said Stuart minced his words....is that right?
Posted: 23:32 Sat 14-May-2005 by "Jon Heels"
(apparently posting from 62.252.32.14: cdif-cache-4.server.ntli.net) # permalink comment
Comment: Why did Maynards have to mess around with a perfectly good sweet?
Posted: 22:46 Tue 17-May-2005 by "Rog" # permalink comment
Comment: What is this about Maynard's Sports Mixture? Heads turned in a shop yesterday when I let out a cry of horror. I've been eating Lion sweets since the 1950s. Has the name disappeared? Have they been taken over? What's the situation? They've recently appeared in London. Is this a clue?
Posted: 11:15 Thu 19-May-2005 by "Rob" # permalink comment
Comment: My fave sweets ever, destroyed by Trebor!! bet they're not even made in the same little factory anymore. I'm gutted and wont buy them again. Bring back the originals and of course the best flavour of the lot Liquorice - if you want blackcurrant go buy any other fruity chew, leave Sports Mixture alone. What a crock
Posted: 15:49 Fri 20-May-2005 by "Ian" # permalink comment
Comment: Must concur with the sad modification of Sports Mixtures by Maynards. The licorice is essential for authenticity. If Maynards W'h'ine Gums are any guide the next step will be to ensure all Sports Mixtures taste the same irrespective of colour/flavour. Don't alter what works admirably.
Posted: 17:47 Fri 20-May-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Tsk. That's the sort of attitude that kept us burning witches for an extra hundred years. Sports Mixtures did NOT "work admirably" before - all normal people had to spend five minutes fishing all the punishment sweets out of the bag beforehand to avoid hideous coffee-Revels incidents while distractedly reaching for a tasty treat during a movie or such.
Posted: 22:20 Tue 31-May-2005 by "robert flatt" # permalink comment
Comment: black current flavour crap lets stick to the lion origional sports mixture dump maynards dump the blackcurent
Posted: 03:04 Wed 01-Jun-2005 by "aloysiusmcdade" # permalink comment
Comment: just bought Lion Original Sports Mixture ,with licorice ones intact maybe they exist in parallel with the plastic Maynards version?
Posted: 15:57 Wed 01-Jun-2005 by "Eddy" # permalink comment
Comment: A wee note to all interested parties re: the liqorice sport mixtures. Bill Leckie of "The Sun" has asked everyone to forward letters of complain to him and he will then forward them to Maynards en mass. His e-mail address is bill.leckie at the-sun.co.uk
Posted: 15:58 Mon 06-Jun-2005 by "Liqorice Ninja" # permalink comment
Comment: I was recently visiting that there landan when I saw a poster for Maynards Sports Mixture... Maynards? I thought, maybe Lions is not posh enuff for these landan types I thought, then I saw a little purple icon in the corner of the poster and my stomach turned... NOOOO!! Its a buy out, they have tampered with the perfect combo (red n blacks at the same time) I will never forgive them! What kind of market research did they undertake? Why didn't they ask me? I ate a couple of big bags every week week, and I'm not even fat, and I've never had a filling! and I'm 100
Posted: 13:15 Tue 07-Jun-2005 by "Dave" # permalink comment
Comment: I have just purchased said packet of Maynards "New" Sports Mixture - what a mess !!. As a lifelong purveyor of these sweets I am disgusted by the recent changes brought about by Trebor Bassett. Can anyone supply me with an Email address I can complain to, independantly (Not through alliegance to crappy daily newspaper)
Posted: 15:58 Tue 07-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Far be it for me to add fuel to the fire, but Trebor Bassett/Maynards have done the same thing to Midget Gems...
Posted: 16:40 Tue 07-Jun-2005 by " bob" # permalink comment
Comment: Homebargins have PEPSI BLUE 1.5l bottle for 29p!!!!! same label design as the uk was going to look like!. Is an limited edition from belgium. they only had 1 bottle left :'(
Posted: 10:02 Thu 09-Jun-2005 by "Nigel" # permalink comment
Comment: great to see others have the same opinion of those awful maynards sports mixture, why on earth do they buy an age old product that we know and love and then totally cock it up!. They taste horrid, are too soft and they have taken out the liqorice ones and replaced them with blackcurrent. A move similar to Revels who have replaced the peanut sweets with raisins. Needless to say I nolonger buy either of these varieties.
Posted: 13:32 Thu 09-Jun-2005 by "DAVID MORTIMER" # permalink comment
Comment: The original recipe Lions Sports Mixtures & Midget Gems are still available on our site if you buy them in the weigh out 3Kg boxes. We have complained to Cadburys but they insist that the new recipe is more popular. But our customers do not agree. hhtp://www.brackenbankstores.co.uk
Posted: 13:42 Thu 09-Jun-2005 by "DAVID " # permalink comment
Comment: Ps: The Maynards brand is actually owned by Cadburys, as they have purchased the Lion recipe in a bid to improve the Maynards range. So Cadburys think that buying a tried and tested recipe then changeing it to suit them will be an improvement. Where is the logic here?
Posted: 20:38 Mon 13-Jun-2005 by "puddingjar" # permalink comment
Comment: I live in the States have always had to go to considerable trouble to get Sports Mixtures sent over to me as they are not imported over there. I just arrived back in Britain for a short holiday and was devastated to discover that Maynards have done the unthinkable and changed SM's forever. Should we start a petition? I cannot imagine what they were thinking..........
Posted: 21:50 Mon 13-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: How about it Snackspot? Imagine the kudos of running a 'bring back the original Sports Mixture' petition, with all the false names that it would attract. Worth consideration, surely - I bet Mr Campbell would sign it!
Posted: 08:50 Tue 14-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Mr Campbell knows where Snackspot lives. Snackspot might want to think about that.
Posted: 15:40 Fri 17-Jun-2005 by "Kevin Kilburn" # permalink comment
Comment: I have enjoyed Lion Sports Mixture for the best part of 50 years but the new Maynards version are disgusting by comparison; little or no flavour and the texture of a cheap wine gum.
Posted: 15:48 Fri 17-Jun-2005 by "Kevin Kilburn" # permalink comment
Comment: ...and another thing. The Radio City advert for the damn Maynard Sports Mixtures is nauseating, according to my work collegue.
Posted: 16:08 Fri 17-Jun-2005 by Snackspot # permalink comment
Comment: well, why don't we have the "petition" right here - this page is the highest Google hit for maynards+sports+mixtures already

(btw, "biskitz4cheez", here's something you and "Stuart" are probably going to agree on - whether "billion" should mean "a thousand million", like it does in the US, or "a million million", like it *used to* in the UK...)


Posted: 20:49 Fri 17-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: I would be delighted that I had helped to initiate a petition on the Sports Mixture issue, despite Stuart's earlier comments... as far as a billion goes, it's a million million - no doubt about it. And I'm Stuart will agree. But as the Sports Mixture issue still rides under the banner of 'Aniseed Imperials', perhaps it should have a page of its own?
Posted: 00:10 Sat 18-Jun-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: Maynards are ok, but i would like to see the lion ones back but with a blackcurrent one still
Posted: 13:01 Sat 18-Jun-2005 by "SMEDHED" # permalink comment
Comment: BRING BACK "REAL" SPORTS MIXTURES NOW,YOU UNSPEAKABLE ROTTERS!
Posted: 14:20 Sat 18-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: BLOODY WELL DON'T!

(Man, this could run and stop.)


Posted: 19:52 Sat 18-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Chill out, Stuart - one cannot fight public opinion...
Posted: 08:49 Sun 19-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Just watch one.

(Besides, YOU'RE clearly the one out of step, or they wouldn't have changed them in the first place...)


Posted: 09:41 Sun 19-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Good morning, Stuart! I don't think I'm 'out of step' - in fact, everyone who has posted in the Sports Mixture discussion, with the obvious exception of your good self, wants the old ones back. This could of course be because the pro-Maynards side cannot be bothered adding their comments, but I doubt it. And we all know that when a manufacturer tampers with a well-established product, it isn't necessarily to reflect public preference. Nice to see you up so early on a Sunday morning.
Posted: 10:30 Sun 19-Jun-2005 by Snackspot # permalink comment
Comment: now isn't this more interesting than a boring old "petition"? personally I am reminded of the famous adage by George Bernard Shaw (though, who, in this case, does it apply to?):

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

(also, I can't stand liquorice either...)


Posted: 11:57 Sun 19-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Indeed. Although I don't know the author, here's one of my favourite profundities (which perhaps could be equally applied to either Mr Campbell or myself, depending on one's viewpoint):

In matters controversial, my perception's rather fine... I always see BOTH points of view: the one that's wrong, and mine!

Nothing like a bit of kul-cha on a Sunday morning.


Posted: 12:53 Sun 19-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: I've been struck with inspiration and thus offer interested parties the 'Be a Sport... bring back the liquorice!' wallpaper - let your monitor display your feelings: http://www.biskitz4cheez.com/misc/gum.jpg
Posted: 17:41 Sun 19-Jun-2005 by "fred" # permalink comment
Comment: I just forked out $50 to my buddy to bring me back sports mixtures to Texas...when I popped that liqcorice cricket bat in i almost passed out with fright...now we all know why??? do the Irish make the originals???
Posted: 10:19 Tue 21-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Well, well, well... what have we here: http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?blacksm&1

(and no, I did not initiate it)


Posted: 22:32 Tue 21-Jun-2005 by "alperian" # permalink comment
Comment: The sports mixture is now dead. When I open a bag of wine gums it smells of Dow Corning silicon sealant. The new "sports mixtures" are not 'new' sports mixtures at all. They are a modified 'wine gum'. They are sickly and revolting really. Just as well. Maybe I can lose my extra pounds. Good old Maynards-ruining a brand to maintain my health.
Posted: 22:37 Tue 21-Jun-2005 by "alperian" # permalink comment
Comment: The sports mixture is now dead. When I open a bag of wine gums it smells of Dow Corning silicon sealant. The new "sports mixtures" are not 'new' sports mixtures at all. They are a modified 'wine gum'. They are sickly and revolting really. Just as well. Maybe I can lose my extra pounds. Good old Maynards-ruining a brand to maintain my health.
Posted: 12:49 Wed 22-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Seriously, you people are hallucinating. Does anyone have even a SHRED of evidence that the recipe has changed beyond the replacement the liquorice ones with blackcurrant? Because I'm fecked if I can detect any difference whatsoever.
Posted: 12:53 Wed 22-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: It's a very subtle change in flavour, Mr Campbell - something that possibly only Sports Mixture connoisseurs can detect.
Posted: 14:09 Wed 22-Jun-2005 by "alperian" # permalink comment
Comment: Dear Stuart. I have to agree with biskitz. I see that we are going to have to employ a mass spectrometer on the bag contents to satisfy you that the new imposters are about as like 'original' sports mixtures as 'Sainsbury's Midget Gems' are like the wonderful Lions variety. These are now the last bastion of hard jelly confectionery lovers. BTW. There used to be some jelly snakes that were aropund when I was about ten in the North-East. Does anyone know what happened to them?
Posted: 15:11 Wed 22-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: You might be thinking about Wrigglers, an excellent hard gum snake - made by ironically, Maynards - which finally disappeared from view, as far as I can tell, about six years ago.

I've been eating Lion gums for over 30 years. I've said it before and I'll say it again - I've bought both old and new Sports Mixtures simultaneously, since you can still find Lion ones, and I'm prepared to bet you £100 right here and now that you couldn't tell them apart in a blind taste test. I'll stand that wager for anyone who wants it...


Posted: 16:00 Wed 22-Jun-2005 by "Phil" # permalink comment
Comment: I agree entirely. Some lunatic in marketing has had a idea to "improve" them. The new blackurrant flavour is not wanted
Posted: 16:11 Wed 22-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Mr Campbell: Why on earth were you buying 'both old and new Sports Mixtures simultaneously' if you find the liquorice ones disgusting? I would have thought you would have exclusively purchased the new version, unless you have a gum-masochism tendency... Interesting wager, though!
Posted: 17:21 Wed 22-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: I bought them both in order to test these highly-dubious claims that there has been some change made to the recipe. My conclusion is that there hasn't. Obviously I threw out the liquorice ones as usual.
Posted: 05:41 Fri 24-Jun-2005 by "Whelkpeddle Institutes" # permalink comment
Comment: I was shocked when I heard that Sports Mixture was to become an inferior brand - they are the only sweets I can think of that have liquorice as opposed to blackcurrant. They should keep it "as is", because there are plenty of other blackcurrent-included sweets around...
Posted: 05:46 Fri 24-Jun-2005 by "Whelkpeddle Institutes" # permalink comment
Comment: ...and what is wrong with adding the blackcurrent flavour, rather than replacing it? (PS - the "old" sports mixture HAS changed - they used to have a stronger flavour.)
Posted: 07:13 Fri 24-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: The whole point is that lots of people used to avoid Lion sweets precisely because of the "Revels effect".

Anyway - those Aniseed Imperials, eh?


Posted: 09:05 Fri 24-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: I quite like coffee Revels... what have Aniseed Imperials got to do with any of this? :-)
Posted: 16:51 Fri 24-Jun-2005 by "Alex" # permalink comment
Comment: I agree with Stuart....the liquorice ones were so out of place.
Posted: 20:11 Fri 24-Jun-2005 by "lol" # permalink comment
Comment: have you tried the spearmint flavour of the imperials
Posted: 21:40 Fri 24-Jun-2005 by "J Calpin " # permalink comment
Comment: Must say dont buy sports mixtures since the liquorice ones disappeared.Start a campaign to bring them back.
Posted: 23:51 Fri 24-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Look, if it matters to all you deluded goons so much, just go and buy some Poor Bens, mix them in with your Sports Mixtures, and bloody stop trying to ruin the best thing that ever happened to them for the rest of us. Tch!
Posted: 02:36 Sat 25-Jun-2005 by "sally" # permalink comment
Comment: http://www.freewebs.com/oneyearon/index.htm
Posted: 08:41 Sat 25-Jun-2005 by "Alex" # permalink comment
Comment: When good Stuart's turn nasty :(
Posted: 08:45 Sat 25-Jun-2005 by "Phillerena" # permalink comment
Comment: Poor Bens, ages since I had some of those.
Posted: 11:41 Sat 25-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: 'deluded goons'? That's a little strong, Mr Campbell...
Posted: 15:03 Sat 25-Jun-2005 by "Phillerena" # permalink comment
Comment: I've heard worse insults biskitz4cheese but yes it is a little harsh for a quaint little site like Snackspot.
Posted: 15:07 Sat 25-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: That was me being extra-nice BECAUSE it's Snackspot. You don't want to hear what I call people in private for trying to wreck something I've waited three decades for...
Posted: 15:44 Sat 25-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Some people, Mr Campbell, feel that Maynards have wrecked something that they've been enjoying for three decades - and even longer! You had to discard the liquorice ones, but could at least enjoy the other flavours. Now traditionalists cannot enjoy any of them... where's your compassion man?
Posted: 16:16 Sat 25-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: As we've established, however, those people are delusionary. The other flavours haven't changed a bit, and nobody has provided the slightest evidence to the contrary.
Posted: 11:28 Mon 27-Jun-2005 by "peanut" # permalink comment
Comment: I had to respond rather than just lurk after reading your comments Stuart... you sound a bit greedy frankly!

I don't like the liquorice ones much either but I want to see them bring them back for my Dad who has been eating them since he was nine - that's over 50 years!! (Eating a fruit one and a liquorice one together is his thing) They have been part of our way of life in our family too - 1kg boxes for birthday and Fathers' Day - everyone always pinches them!

He - and I would defy you to find anyone with more experience! - says like someone said before, that the flavours aren't as strong and they go soft quicker when you're chewing.

Does anyone have any idea of how to put some real pressure on Maynards? I emailed the guy from the Sun but haven't heard anything.


Posted: 11:49 Mon 27-Jun-2005 by Snackspot # permalink comment
Comment: not to stir this up any further, but the London Underground vending machines claim that Maynards Sports Mixture are "now even chewier" (or something to that effect).

Now this might support the "biskitz4cheez" faction's theory that they have changed the recipe to bring about this enhanced chewiness (and therefore possibly the flavour as well).

"Stuart Campbell" supporters (such as myself) could, however, counter-argue that maybe it's just the new, chewier texture that's making people think that the taste has changed (in the same way that Wispa and Flake kind of taste different to Cadbury's Dairy Milk, even though they're - presumably - all made of exactly the same chocolate?)


Posted: 12:38 Mon 27-Jun-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Liquorice ones, as far as I know, haven't gone anywhere. If you want them, buy Poor Bens, which are nothing BUT the liquorice ones, and stop trying to screw everything up for the rest of us.

Your dad is welcome, like anyone else, to take up my £100 challenge...


Posted: 14:14 Mon 27-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Surely this topic should no longer be under the 'Bassett's Aniseed Imperials' heading? It's very misleading... Peanut - you could sign the petition (link above at http://www.snackspot.org.uk/thread.php?story=0504241312sbc#20050621101900) - there's over, er... 50 signatures now!
Posted: 14:20 Tue 28-Jun-2005 by Snackspot # permalink comment
Comment: ironically, that's partly your fault, "biskitz4cheez", for not sending in a proper sighting of the Maynards version in the first place :)

i'm a bit loath to try and move all the relevant comments to a new sighting at this stage - though i could maybe stick "Maynards Sports Mixtures" in the title at the top?


Posted: 15:08 Tue 28-Jun-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Sorry Snackspot, but I didn't know if my free sample pack constituted a genuine 'sighting'... perhaps the amendment you suggest would help. Please accept my apologies for adding confusion to the threads!
Posted: 18:59 Tue 05-Jul-2005 by "Jo" # permalink comment
Comment: I have just signed the black sports mixtures petition - only 56 signatures so far - COME ON PEOPLE
Posted: 10:29 Wed 06-Jul-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: "Only 56 signatures so far"... I think that tells a story, no?
Posted: 21:35 Thu 07-Jul-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: It could simply mean that not many people have discovered the petition. It has now been signed by 67 people: this amounts to 11 further signatures in two days, an increase of 20%. If this trend continues, then the number of signatures over a 6-month period would be... loads
Posted: 08:11 Sun 10-Jul-2005 by "Rog" # permalink comment
Comment: I see that the word 'Lion' has now disappeared from the SM packets. They only say 'Maynards'.
Posted: 12:45 Mon 11-Jul-2005 by "Phillerena" # permalink comment
Comment: I saw Bassets "Milky Babies" in Superdrug today, a new take on Jelly Babies apparently. Weird or what.
Posted: 13:00 Mon 11-Jul-2005 by "charl" # permalink comment
Comment: oh man, i just got milky babies to review last night. and they have fruity babies too, but i'm not going there.
Posted: 15:21 Mon 11-Jul-2005 by "Phillerena" # permalink comment
Comment: LOL what next, fizzy babies? Chocolate babies?!
Posted: 15:22 Mon 11-Jul-2005 by "charl" # permalink comment
Comment: muppet babies, salami babies, cheese babies? who knows. only the inventive minds at cadbury trebor bassett...
Posted: 18:45 Mon 11-Jul-2005 by "Sandy" # permalink comment
Comment: They have little tubes of the old Lion Sports Mixture at the Cadbury outlet shop in Swindon. Think they are about 30p for 50g tube and they have absolutely stacks but I noticed that they go out of date end July so all you people after the old ones better stock up now while you still can!
Posted: 13:23 Tue 19-Jul-2005 by "Tanis" # permalink comment
Comment: Well, I just bought the last two boxes of Lions Original Midget Gems from my local wholesalers! Sniff! These are meant to be eaten by the mouthful, one of each flavour at a time, two if you don't mind mumbling, but if you try this with the Maynards poor copies then the nasty black-currant one takes over and destroys the bouquet of the whole mouthful! Yach! If 'they' don't bring back the liquorice midget gem then Im going home!
Posted: 13:47 Tue 19-Jul-2005 by "Tanis" # permalink comment
Comment: Well, I just bought the last two boxes of Lions Original Midget Gems from my local wholesalers! Sniff! These are meant to be eaten by the mouthful, one of each flavour at a time, two if you don't mind mumbling, but if you try this with the Maynards poor copies then the nasty black-currant one takes over and destroys the bouquet of the whole mouthful! Yach! If 'they' don't bring back the liquorice midget gem then Im going home!
Posted: 13:57 Tue 19-Jul-2005 by "Tanis" # permalink comment
Comment: incidentally, the wholesalers did have lots of the original Sports Mixtures bags if anybody is local enough, Booker Cash & Carry, White Lund Ind. Est. Lancaster. (sorry the last post went in twice, I reloaded....doh)
Posted: 19:52 Tue 19-Jul-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: Sports Mixtures was a waste of money and still are! i hate them!
Posted: 20:40 Tue 19-Jul-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Nice one bob!
Posted: 19:32 Thu 21-Jul-2005 by "Laura Dorman" # permalink comment
Comment: I am very angry and heartbroken that Lions, the respected and quality bound brand, has sold out :(. The black sweets were my favourite, and a tradition in my family...there was always so little of them, I was normally upset.

My favourite combo was the red and black but now..and I'm sorry Mr Cambell but there is a difference, they are much softer and the taste has indeed changed to a sweeter less flavoured version.


Posted: 00:15 Fri 22-Jul-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Not as sorry as I am hearing this complete cobblers repeated over and over again. I bought a bag of Lion Midget Gems and a bag of Maynards Midget Gems this weekend. The ingredients are identical, apart from the liquorice. Not one person who tried could tell the two kinds apart. My £100 taste challenge still stands. You're all delusional.
Posted: 13:00 Fri 22-Jul-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: And here, just to back that up, is the official response I got from Cadbury Schweppes a few minutes ago, after I wrote to them and asked.

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Thanks for your email

I have checked with a colleague and there has been no change whatsoever.

The product is made in the same factory to the same recipe and in the same manufacturing process as before.

Just Maynards the name and new blackcurrant sweet are different.

Kind regards

Sarah Corporate Communication

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Now can all you hallucinating loonies please SHUT UP? Thanks.


Posted: 13:37 Fri 22-Jul-2005 by "charl" # permalink comment
Comment: wow, talk about nominative determinism! poor sarah probably didn't have much choice with a surname like that. ;)
Posted: 13:48 Fri 22-Jul-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Actually, I believe she was born Sarah Corporate Smith. It was just a coincidence that she fell in love with Steve Communication and got married.
Posted: 17:27 Fri 22-Jul-2005 by "charl" # permalink comment
Comment: ah, a modern love story to warm the cockles of our e-hearts.
Posted: 21:19 Fri 22-Jul-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: but, Mr Campbell - if the recipe and/or production process HAS changed, do you think Ms Communication would actually admit to it? That would be asking for trouble... better to pretend everything is as before and hope that the 'deluded goons' and 'hallucinating loonies' go away!

PS: What did you do with the liquorice Midget Gems? Wasted them by scattering them on the ground again, I guess...


Posted: 12:36 Mon 25-Jul-2005 by "Kevin Kilburn" # permalink comment
Comment: No way has the recipe remained the same. I am an industrial chemist and have some experience of this sort of product re-launching. The taste of all the Sports Mixture flavours is weaker and the texture is softer. I dont know what the recipe would include but I would bet that there is more water present in the gelatine mixture that cheapens it and dilutes the flavour.
Posted: 16:25 Mon 25-Jul-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: [buries head in hands]

£100.

Challenge.

Put up or shut up.


Posted: 18:08 Mon 25-Jul-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: You can't argue with an industrial chemist.

PS Just wanted the 100th post on this most fascinating of topics...


Posted: 18:25 Mon 25-Jul-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Um, it's not actually legal for "Corporate Communications" to tell us the recipe hasn't changed if it has. What if the change affected someone's allergies and killed them, say? Nevertheless, I'm not expecting anyone to take anyone else's word for it. £100 challenge. Put your money where the totally-unaltered sweets in your mouth are. Or spare us all your paranoid nonsense. It's a reasonable position. It's only sweets, but I really am fricking sick of these delusional liars now.
Posted: 19:46 Mon 25-Jul-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: 'Delusional liars'? Now that IS strong, Mr Campbell. And, of course, to be a liar then one has to intentionally say something which ones *knows* to be incorrect - but, if these people are deluded, as you say, then they *believe* that what they are saying is true - thus they cannot be described as liars...
Posted: 20:09 Mon 25-Jul-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: I stand corrected. But it's easy to get confused when people state opinions as definite truth. (eg "No way has the recipe remained the same") I'd never have thought Sports Mixtures could get me so annoyed, but people who won't listen to the hard facts always get my back up. Tsk.
Posted: 16:18 Tue 26-Jul-2005 by "yvonne roscoe" # permalink comment
Comment: hopefully maynards will start to market the black's sport mixture on it's own, it was by far the favourite flavour of many and the blackcurrant option is no substitute.
Posted: 16:45 Tue 26-Jul-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: sports mixtures WAS horrable STILL are a WASTE of money and im sick of people talking about them - they changed them so what if they have or havent, the is much more things to worry about in this world that stupid horrable sweets. thank you very much.
Posted: 18:03 Tue 26-Jul-2005 by "jb" # permalink comment
Comment: Here, here, I'll be sticking to my Maynard's Wine Gums. No more Sports Mixture for me ever.
Posted: 19:02 Tue 26-Jul-2005 by "GTO" # permalink comment
Comment: I definately prefer Wine Gums as they are now, a bit softer. They used to be like small rubber plugs of some kind, something that belonged in a tool box.
Posted: 09:14 Wed 27-Jul-2005 by "Rod Partridge" # permalink comment
Comment: I was recently disturbed by the change in the flavours of the 'Original Sports Mixture' I have been eating this product since the 'Sixties' and couldn't believe that they had replaced my favourite 'Licorice' treat with an insipid Blackcurrant flavour. The texture of all the gums seems to have changed, has the recipe changed? I for one will not be buying the new Maynards Sports Mixture until the Original Licorice treats have returned. Yours Distraught 48 year old.
Posted: 09:28 Wed 27-Jul-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: Hngh.
Posted: 10:45 Wed 27-Jul-2005 by "Gilly" # permalink comment
Comment: Bring back the black sport mixtures! They are the best by far. I won't be purchasing any more sports until they are back where they belong!!!!
Posted: 19:13 Wed 27-Jul-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: okay if i offend you sorry: times are changing and so are tastes only you old fats are complaing about it because liquorice was about the only thing you could afford, these days we dont want liquorice in them, this puts kids of from buying them, now with new blackcurrent more kids will by them because of the fun shapes and flavors so there.
Posted: 19:28 Wed 27-Jul-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Mr Partridge and Gilly - welcome aboard!
Posted: 20:30 Wed 27-Jul-2005 by "GTO" # permalink comment
Comment: I love both blackcurrant an liquorice. If we could get rid of one of the crap ones...say Yellow, and have both blacks, that would rule.
Posted: 10:52 Thu 28-Jul-2005 by "Yakkin" # permalink comment
Comment: I am really dismayed none of the old popular sweets taste the same these days. I suppose it's because some Eurocrat has said we can't have this and we can't have that.... well I for one will be avoiding Maynards products like the plague from now on..... oh... and don't even mention SMARTIES!
Posted: 12:22 Thu 28-Jul-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: .

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- AAAAAAAAAAA.

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR- RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR- RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR- .

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGG- GGGGGGGGGGGGGGG- GGGGGGGGGGG.

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH- HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH- HHHHHHHHHHH.


Posted: 12:44 Thu 28-Jul-2005 by "chotna69" # permalink comment
Comment: well, won't be buying Sports Mixtures again! Loved the liquorice ones but can't stand the "new" blackcurrant! Why do they have to change things that worked in the past for something that clearly doesn't!!
Posted: 13:40 Thu 28-Jul-2005 by "Stuart Campbell" # permalink comment
Comment: I'm never coming here again. Everyone else seems to be a MORON.
Posted: 22:24 Thu 28-Jul-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: tut, tut
Posted: 23:24 Thu 28-Jul-2005 by "Ray from Kent" # permalink comment
Comment: LIQUORICE IS A MUST! They are simply not "sports mixtures" without them. I wrote to Trebor Bassett (and YES I DO have better things to do)to complain about the removal of the LIQUORICE variety. There response? Well they wrote--- its what customers wanted! they have created a monster cheapened version of a classic brithish sweet that I have enjoye since I was 5, I'm 45 now and still have all my own teeth!, What next - protest march anyone???
Posted: 23:30 Thu 28-Jul-2005 by "Ray from Kent" # permalink comment
Comment: this is the reply I got from Maynards---thank you for your recent email concerning Maynards Sports Mix.

As you quite rightly state we have recently replaced the liquorice unit to a Blackcurrant sweet in Sports Mix.

The confectionery market is ever changing and as a trading company within the industry we have to adapt to market pressures and commitments. To do this successfully we employ specialist agencies who work on our behalf to sample and question members of the public to their individual preferences. Market research has led us to adapt the range of sweets to appeal to a larger audience. This has meant that the liquorice unit has been removed and replaced by blackcurrant as it is far more widely preferred. The sweets themselves have not been changed and are still made to the same high standard as previously. Regrettably this also means that those who preferred the old Liquorice sweet may now be disappointed.

We always welcome feedback from our consumers and I have passed a copy of your email onto our Marketing Department for their information.

However as an alternative you can purchase in packs and weigh out form Liquorice Tablets which are the same recipe as the Liquorice Sports Mix, if you have problems finding them locally you can contact the The Chocolate Shop in Cleckheaton were they offer a postal service, the telephone number for them is 01274 878700.

Once again thank you for taking the trouble to contact us.

Regards

Charlie Cadbury Consumer Relations Department


Posted: 15:10 Fri 29-Jul-2005 by "midget gem fan" # permalink comment
Comment: I have been enjoying the (original) Lion Midget Gems for many many years. The recent appearance of the Maynard substitutes are the last straw. The taste has changed, they no longer give that masochistically enjoyable jaw ache that was the characteristic of Lion product. As for the loss of the liquorice for the 'fruity' alternative that shows a similar disregard for the traditional recipies. If I had wanted squidgy chemical tasting chewy things I would have bought Maynards products - which I never did. It looks like these joys of my childhood (and my own children's childhoods)are consigned to the history books now. I will not buy them any more. I will also avoid other Trebor Basset products in protest! Think again Trebor - you took Lion over presumably because of their popular range of sweets. So why meddle with a quality product! This smacks of killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
Posted: 16:44 Fri 29-Jul-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: lalala no one cares lalala find something else to moan about lalala
Posted: 19:16 Fri 29-Jul-2005 by "James Quin" # permalink comment
Comment: You mean like Blue Pepsi?
Posted: 00:24 Mon 01-Aug-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: lalala no one cares lalala pepsi blue was in 2003?! why bring up the past?
Posted: 10:02 Tue 02-Aug-2005 by "Rod Partridge" # permalink comment
Comment: Here! Here! Ray from Kent. Sold down the river by the multi national corporations. I have now forbid my wife eating Cadbury products which are made in my birth place. She's now taken to eating Nestle's French stuff and the Mars American crap! Bring back the cat! Bob. For somebody who isn't interested why do you visit so often?
Posted: 10:12 Tue 02-Aug-2005 by "Rod Partridge" # permalink comment
Comment: As an after thought the quality of the Sports Mixture shape as also suffered under Maynards. I cannot differenciate between the Cricket bat and the Bicycle!
Posted: 22:24 Thu 04-Aug-2005 by "Chris Sirs"
(apparently posting from 82.38.99.144: 82-38-99-144.cable.ubr02.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) # permalink comment
Comment: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Maynards! Give me back my liquirice Midget Gems & Sports Mixture! BOOHOO!!!
Posted: 23:42 Fri 05-Aug-2005 by "Greg Burrows" # permalink comment
Comment: I am 45 the only sweet I have enjoyed all my life is Lions wine gums, when I could not find wine gums I would buy midget gems. I have never liked maynards as they are soft chewy and have a chemical taste. I am dismayed that Cadburys have thought to start changing the recipe and try to sell them under Manyards brand. Marketing should sell maynards as a mainline cheap sweet as they are and promote Lions superior wine gums (original recipe) as the best wine gums, in the world, no one can argue with that. I have not bought any Maynards sports mixtures or midget gems as I was looking for Lions and would not buy anything else I just thought Maynards were ripping of Lions by copying there packaging and made a deal with supermarkets to get rid of Lions. Someone must have the recipe for the sweets? PLCs have ruined all the food we eat, Know they want to cut a few pence of making Lions gums. You can not do market research on the street or with one packet as Lions are like Guinness an aquired taste which stays forever. Regards Greg Burrows
Posted: 00:30 Sat 06-Aug-2005 by "Greg Burrows" # permalink comment
Comment: I hope Marketing read my above comment as Lions superior gums have been around for over a hundred years. When I was five I spent all my birthday money on Lions winegums 2lb the shop owner rang my mother up to make sure I had got the money by honest deeds. (please Cadburys market Lions wine gums as a long term investment I must have eaten tons) Regards Greg Burrows
Posted: 09:41 Sun 07-Aug-2005 by "Rog" # permalink comment
Comment: From Cadbury's reply in Ray's post above: "the liquorice unit" - what an appalling description of our fave Sport Mixture!

I used to buy SMs by post in large boxes. Imagine the joy of opening the box and seeing the array of goodies therein. All in the past now.


Posted: 17:49 Sun 07-Aug-2005 by "Greg Burrows" # permalink comment
Comment: I have just bought a packet 113g Lions wine gums,they are disgusting. Misshapen, soft and squishey and taste disgusting I actually feel quite sick after eating a few what have cadbury,s done. They go white if you press them with your thumb and forefinger what the hell are they made of I have thrown them in the bin were all this cheap disgusting imitation should be put. Did some one say if you buy a three KG box you still get the real ones? Yours Disgusted Greg Burrows
Posted: 19:11 Sun 07-Aug-2005 by "GTO" # permalink comment
Comment: I nearly bought Lion's Wine Gums yesterday out of curiosity. Thanks for the heads up, I won't be buying them now.
Posted: 22:47 Sun 07-Aug-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: liquorice is old dos now, times are changing so live with it, the kids in the UK profer blackcurrent than liquorice, moaning old farts!
Posted: 22:54 Sun 07-Aug-2005 by "GTO" # permalink comment
Comment: I'm 18, so can go either way. Liquorice is best, kids are stupid. Liquorice. Liquorice is better. Not blackcurrant, liquorice.
Posted: 19:17 Mon 08-Aug-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: hey bob - it's a little presumptuous for you to speak on behalf of the nation's youth! I didn't realise liquorice was 'old' and blackcurrant was a trendy youth alternative - I thought they were simply different tastes... and as GTO points out, there are *some* young people who actually like liquorice.
Posted: 21:45 Mon 08-Aug-2005 by "Phillerena" # permalink comment
Comment: biskitz, bob is right I would say. I certainly see liquorice as an old farts food. I only like it in liquoroce allsorts as long as it has that foam stuff around it.
Posted: 18:23 Tue 09-Aug-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: hmmm... an 'old fart's food'? Rather than debate whether liquorice is better in or out of Sports Mixture, perhaps we should debate whether or not it is fogey-food or has universal appeal.
Posted: 19:25 Tue 09-Aug-2005 by "GTO" # permalink comment
Comment: Agreed, I wouldn't eat "bread and dripping" or a lot of the other War time offerings if you paid me, but that's because I think they are genuinely foul. Flavours are like anything else, people like what they like. Coca-Cola has been around for well over 100 years now, so how can you even begin to label foods and flavours as being "old" or "young" people's?
Posted: 12:36 Wed 10-Aug-2005 by "Kilburn" # permalink comment
Comment: Still dismayed about the new naff Sports Mixtures I bought a bag of Rowntree's Fruit Gums a couple of weeks ago. They are a great substitute! This brand has also changed since I were a lad but they are still very tasty, with a nice firm texture. Strongly recommended.
Posted: 15:48 Thu 11-Aug-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: ok MANY MANY kids profer blackcurrent so as maynards changed a flavor to blackcurrent and made the packet look more up to date many kids buy them, when they was liquorice in them kids didnt buy them and thought yuk, well most of them do as i help out in a friends shop! also MARS even no this because liqorice skittles was brought out secretly as they didnt do very well because kids DONT like old farts foods! also Coca Cola was out for yeas? so coca cola have added flavors and new products for everyones taste, not like liquorice. I think im going to email maynards and tell them WELL DONE for changing the liquorice! (If you spot any spelling mistakes it is because im in a rush)
Posted: 19:25 Thu 11-Aug-2005 by "GTO" # permalink comment
Comment: You're missing the point. These companies obviously have to constantly alter and change their products to meet various social/cultural needs. No-one is saying that Maynards made a mistake by replacing blackcurrant. We were trying to establish whether or not liquorice is an "old people's flavour" (Which it isn't), not whether companies are wrong is messing with classic flavours. They need to sell things, and if that means altering flavours to suit the current market, so be it. DEAL!
Posted: 21:20 Thu 11-Aug-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: well, actually, GTO, we *were* originally suggesting that it was a mistake to replace the 'liquorice unit' with a blackcurrant one... it's only in the last few posts that the debate has changed, due to bob's assertion that liquorice is fogey food.
Posted: 21:27 Thu 11-Aug-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: ok lets get this topic sorted! - Liquorice has gone. Thank god. The End!
Posted: 12:22 Sat 13-Aug-2005 by "Josie Partridge" # permalink comment
Comment: Well Bob I am the 14 year old daughter of Rod and the loss of the liquorice flavour is devestating to me. We just came back off holiday with a bag of Haribo Dunhills original Pontefract cakes... delicious! Old farts food 'BOB' I don't think so!
Posted: 15:45 Sat 13-Aug-2005 by "GTO" # permalink comment
Comment: Actually, we could argue that "bob" is an old people's name, which it is.
Posted: 17:27 Sat 13-Aug-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: bob is an old peoples name and? how do you really no my name is bob, you don't so go and cry over the loss of the liquorice. And joise you must be a geek. End Off
Posted: 18:45 Sat 13-Aug-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Hey GTO - perhaps you're right? http://www.google.com/ [URL display truncated]
Posted: 22:20 Sat 13-Aug-2005 by "GTO" # permalink comment
Comment: Haha, fan-tastic. Ok, everyone stop getting so worked up, they're only sweet flavours.
Posted: 15:01 Sun 14-Aug-2005 by "Mac" # permalink comment
Comment: All good things must come to an end. I have just tried a bag and it will be the last. I suspect the new Blackcurrent and all the other concoctions are actually cheaper to produce, gross texture, gross taste. Well done Trebor Bassett for trashing a great brand and a great product.
Posted: 16:54 Sun 14-Aug-2005 by "Eric the lions fan" # permalink comment
Comment: Had my final pack of proper midget gems yesterday. Is this really the end? How can anyone eat those chemicalised soft jelly variety I'LL NEVER KNOW
Posted: 16:56 Sun 14-Aug-2005 by "Blackcurrant liker" # permalink comment
Comment: Could it be because they're exactly the same as the Lion ones?
Posted: 18:23 Sun 14-Aug-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: I wonder if 'Blackcurrant liker' is a pseudonym of Mr Campbell, who, true to his word, has not yet returned to this thread since http://www.snackspot.org.uk/thread.php?story=0504241312sbc#20050728134000 ?
Posted: 19:37 Sun 14-Aug-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: take the mick out of my name now? what next? you can swivle IM NOT COMING BACK HERE AGAIN! - New SPORTS MIXTURE 100/10
Posted: 09:47 Tue 16-Aug-2005 by "legal_man" # permalink comment
Comment: Mr Campbell is right. He could not be more right. There is absolutely no difference. Which makes me wonder - is this whole thread a piece of marketing by Ms Corporate Communication to get people to buy Sports Mixture?
Posted: 10:50 Wed 17-Aug-2005 by "guess dis quiz" # permalink comment
Comment: Jiles Apple Cirmit frog Kig Oplos what is my name\?
Posted: 00:54 Fri 19-Aug-2005 by ""midget gem fan"" # permalink comment
Comment: I have just come back from a fantastic holiday in North Yorkshire. Fantastic because I found a little sweet shop that still had the original midget gems, sports mixture and wine gums in stock. As to previous comments regarding the supposedly "unchanged" recipe. I suspect the manufacturers are being economical with the truth. They may well have not changed the total formulation which would be gelatin, water, flavourings etc. However I have a pharmaceutical manufacturing background and I know you can obtain different forms of gelatin (different bloom strengths) which will give you different end products hence the different hardness from one manufacturer to another. I am sure they are being perfectly truthful in saying that the sweets still contain gelatin but I would assume for stock control purposes they have standardised on a single grade of gelatin which they use in all their products. Hence the lack of any discernible "chew" in their version of midget gems and sports mixture. I will now be raiding all street corner sweet shops for stock of the old product. Once that has gone I will be saving my money! Shame on you Cadburys!
Posted: 10:14 Fri 19-Aug-2005 by "Rog" # permalink comment
Comment: Thanks for that, midget gem fan. I'm sure you're right - it sounds like an economy measure that would be high on their agenda. SMs ARE different. It's hard to define exactly how, but they are. Best to keep them in the fridge, of course.
Posted: 13:27 Fri 19-Aug-2005 by "Mark down in Devon" # permalink comment
Comment: Bring back the Lions made Midget Gems and Sports Mixtures! They are the only ones that were any good.

Ray from Kent (28 July 2005) summed it up for me!


Posted: 14:02 Fri 19-Aug-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: okay they are softer but they are better with out liquorice!
Posted: 15:25 Fri 19-Aug-2005 by "Rod Partridge" # permalink comment
Comment: I have jus t had an unsatisfactory bog standard e mail from "Charlie Cadbury" saying that they haven't changed the recipe and that they were reacting preferred tastes. As with'Midget Gem Fan' they are being econmical with the truth. Bob I thought you weren't coming here again? What got no friends? Josie isn't a 'Geek'! Are you fat and American and your spelling a disgrace.
Posted: 20:19 Fri 19-Aug-2005 by ""midget gem fan"" # permalink comment
Comment: Folks might like to check out this link. Apparently there is a £1M advertising campaign coming to sell Sports Mixtures to southerners! This is the path Boddington's beer took and that's history as well now. http://archive.thisisbradford.co.uk/2005/4/11/91402.html
Posted: 13:03 Mon 22-Aug-2005 by "alan knott" # permalink comment
Comment: maynards have drestroied there sport mixtures i have had the old type sport mixture for about 40 years and they were great
Posted: 16:51 Mon 22-Aug-2005 by "Karita" # permalink comment
Comment: I can't believe they've changed Midget Gems. It's appalling!

I can't say I've tried the Sport mixture but I know how you all feel.

Bring back the licorice ones, blackcurrant - if I want those I'll buy blackcurrant sweets!


Posted: 16:09 Thu 25-Aug-2005 by "Becky" # permalink comment
Comment: Having just got in from Woolworths, I sat down at the PC to enjoy a bag of my favourite sweet. The bag was different, but it said Lions on the back - I won't use swear words, and you know the rest. Anyway, I found an archived article on the internet, from the Telegraph and Argus Newspaper. A link to the article: http://archive.thisisbradford.co.uk/2005/4/11/91402.html

This made me feel even more sick, as if this rubberised sweet wasn't already turning my stomach. So, I decided to give my comment and so I emailed the Editor my views of the midget gem vandalism being perpetrated up north! Would suggest others join in.

The email address is: tanda.letters (at!) bradford.newsquest.co.uk

My email reads as follows:

Dear Editor,

Whilst searching the internet, I came upon an editorial article entitled. "Sweet success is target for Gems". The article, it would seem, appeared in the Telegraph & Argus, first published Monday 11th Apr 2005.

The article was extremely informative. It told a story of success, as southeners were going to have the opportunity of sampling Lions Midget Gems. Well, I had to read the article several times, and on the second pass I discovered the declaration that, "The only difference to the eye-catching packaging and gummy sweets will be the addition of the Maynards logo."

So, I can now say there are two points in the article that are wrong. Clearly your reporter has been given incorrect information as Lion Midget Gems and Maynard Midget Gems are as different as north and south. The Maynard version is a soft, sickly sweet that bears no place in a sweet shop anywhere (not even down south). The Lion variety is a traditional, firm and tasty sweet. One that can be relied upon to provide enjoyment.

It may also be worth noting that the Lion midget gems were also sold in Northern Ireland, so not just the north of England. Would you please correct the mistakes and consider contacting Maynards for an explanation? Alternatively, if you have the ear of someone at Lion's - please warn them their good name is being tarnished, and midget gem lovers are being poisoned by Maynards!

Yours sincerely, Becky Barrett (A life-long lover of quality midget gems)


Posted: 17:41 Thu 25-Aug-2005 by "Becky" # permalink comment
Comment: Why does this forum change ampersands into (at!)? My last posting contained an email address - the (at!) should not be an (at!), it should be an ampersand. This posting will probably be tampered with (Maynards are here, aren't they?) as well, so take care if using the email address.


Posted: 17:48 Thu 25-Aug-2005 by "Becky" # permalink comment
Comment: Sorry all - I really don't know what happened earlier to cause my last posting to go in three times. Can someone please delete two of them?

[Fixed now. And it's to stop people's email addresses being "harvested" by web robots which send them spam, in case you were wondering - Snackspot]

Those sweets really knocked me sideways. Not joking around.


Posted: 09:36 Fri 26-Aug-2005 by "Rog" # permalink comment
Comment: Very good letter, Becky. Let us know the results. I notice the article says that Lion "is joining forces with Maynard's". What rubbish. They have no choice, have they?
Posted: 19:01 Fri 26-Aug-2005 by "Irene bell" # permalink comment
Comment: give us back our blacks in sports mixtures and get rid of the rotten blackcurrent one's its totally spoilt the packs of sweets and i will refuse to buy the sweets i love and always eat until they are put back to normal.. lions sweet lover .
Posted: 20:07 Fri 26-Aug-2005 by "Becky" # permalink comment
Comment: I have had an acknowledgement from Mike Priestley, Reader Relations Editor of the Telegraph and Argus Newspaper. He says, "Thanks for your comments. We'll look into it."

Which I realise doesn't promise anything - but will keep you all posted on any developments.

Thanks for the praise Rog. I had a really strange afternoon yesterday. I went through a range of emotions, and ended up with a splitting headache and eventually feeling really low. These Maynards sweets should be banned altogether. No wonder so many kids today are described as hyperactive. The sweets are the cause.


Posted: 22:19 Fri 26-Aug-2005 by "podge" # permalink comment
Comment: I think food companies change recipes all the time, they must be aware how dangerous this can be. I suspect that the letters from Cadbury are true, they changed the flavour which then made the black unit softer. This softer texture may not have been intentional. Who knows?
Posted: 12:20 Sun 28-Aug-2005 by "Becky" # permalink comment
Comment: For those who want the Lion's Originals, Midget Gems and Sports Mixture...

I would suggest a visit to your local Woolworth's. I popped in earlier, and they had the Lion's Midget Gems and I also bought a bag of the Sports Mixture.

Not being an expert in Sports Mix - the black is hard and tastes of licorice to me. Also really chewy. The bag is white with the lion plaque on it, pictures of the gums etc.. I think it's the real mccoy.


Posted: 08:55 Sat 03-Sep-2005 by "Rog" # permalink comment
Comment: Couldn't see 'em in my Woolies, Becky - just the Maynards ones. And I'm not buying them when I can't actually see them in the bag. I'd like to know what I'm buying, especially after these changes.
Posted: 13:59 Mon 05-Sep-2005 by "Linsey"
(apparently posting from 194.128.65.167: ) # permalink comment
Comment: I'd just like to know why, if a product is good, do you feel the need to change it. If the Maynards name needs a bigger profile, as I have read in previous comments, then why change what Lyon's have done so well with for years. It just doesn't make any sense. I won't buy Sports Mixtures any more unless I see the Lyon's ones. Like the old saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Posted: 14:12 Mon 05-Sep-2005 by "Jenny Wood" # permalink comment
Comment: Like so many others here will not be buying the Maynards version of Midget Gems. The Lions with the licorice were a real favourite with my daughters - a family indulgence! Bring back the licorice. Maynards have lost two generations of consumers with their meddling!
Posted: 16:08 Thu 08-Sep-2005 by "sweetlover" # permalink comment
Comment: please will Maynards stop changing Lion products! The new fruity Sports mixtures are rubbish - they have replaced the liquorice with blackcurrant so therefore I will no longer be buying Sports mixture anymore. Also beware!! Maynards are also fiddling about with the flavour of 'Poor Bens', a lovely peppery liquorice flavour gum - they are adding blackcurrant to these as well
Posted: 21:58 Sun 11-Sep-2005 by "Ray in Kent" # permalink comment
Comment: Good to see the debate still going strong although it has taken a turn from the original "removal of the licorice from SPORTS MIXTURES" Bring back the licorice variety and the original LIONS texture! As for it being a debate about what age you happen to be, isnt People / consumer power what we ALL should enforce? I will NOT be buying ANY product from cadburys / Trebor /Maynards until they bring back ORIGINAL LOINS SPORTS MIXTURES- including the LICORICE variety. Protest march anyone? Ray
Posted: 23:48 Sun 11-Sep-2005 by "Rollski" # permalink comment
Comment: I am prepared to take a taste test on the old and new sports mixture (if, provided by 'old' we mean the genuine Lion ones). Anyone who says they've not changed for the worse is living in dreamland.

If the supporters of the New 'Sports Mixture' wanted all the changes to the old recipe so much, why didn't they just buy normal wine gums?

I'm disgusted that they've got rid of the licourice, but all the others have definitely changed too. The taste has changed beyond recognition, they are softer and I think they've got slightly larger.

I suspected treachery when I was offered a free bag in a promotion some time earlier this year. When the 'free' promotional bag turned up and it said 'Maynards' on it, the music died. Why don't 'they' (Maynards) stick to producing rubbishy wine gums that look like they're made of Play Doh (and probably are)? I wonder if this is why they killed Lion - because their own sweets are not good enough.

The problem is that there's no-one else producing anything like the old Lion Sports Mixture. Looks like I'm going to have to try and get hold of one of the big old jars ...before they stop making them as well.

Market forces??? Let's do a test. Put the old Lion sports mixture head-to-head with the new Maynards ones in the market place and see which wins. I can confidently predict that it would be Lion!

I'm not even that old.


Posted: 19:19 Mon 12-Sep-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Well Rollski - sounds like you're the ideal candidate for Mr Campbell's '£100 put up or shut up' challenge: http://www.snackspot.org.uk/thread.php?story=0504241312sbc#20050725182500 However, Mr Campbell has kept to his word and not contributed to the debate since announcing that he would never visit this topic again - although the challenge may make him re-appear...
Posted: 22:54 Mon 12-Sep-2005 by "Rollski" # permalink comment
Comment: Thanks for the details of the challenge.

I can tell the difference easily. They even come from a different production line! Who are these 'friends' that Campbell tried them out on? Bertie Bassett and Mr.Maynard - most likely! Tell Campbell to fetch his 'sweets' and money (because he'll be handing it over). Let's have the matter settled.

I've got some of the correct sweets on order and will even provide pictures showing the differences between the classy Lion and crass Maynards, when they arrive!

The only way to get the Maynards imposter sweets anywhere near as firm is to put them in the freezer for half an hour - and then the taste is still poor!


Posted: 23:30 Mon 12-Sep-2005 by "Rollski" # permalink comment
Comment: Thanks for the details of the challenge.

I can tell the difference easily. They even come from a different production line! Who are these 'friends' that Campbell tried them out on? Bertie Bassett and Mr.Maynard - most likely! Tell Campbell to fetch his 'sweets' and money (because he'll be handing it over). Let's have the matter settled.

I've got some of the correct sweets on order and will even provide pictures showing the differences between the classy Lion and crass Maynards, when they arrive!

The only way to get the Maynards imposter sweets anywhere near as firm is to put them in the freezer for half an hour - and then the taste is still poor!


Posted: 09:30 Wed 14-Sep-2005 by "Rod" # permalink comment
Comment: I haven't visited for a time, however I have found a supply of the Original Lion Sports Mixture on my way home from Sheffield, (I commute from the West Midlands. Rollski is absolutely right these are totally different, taste, texture and what I said before the quality of moulding is indeed crass. I fear for Rollski if enters into a taste challenge between the original and the Maynards fake, the fake are made from nuclear waste material from the old Soviet Union! for gods sake be careful. I didn't realise they had messed with Poor Bens as well, could we take part in a citizens arrest for interfering with Poor Ben?
Posted: 13:32 Wed 14-Sep-2005 by "Nik" # permalink comment
Comment: I agree that the blackcurrant sports mixtures are a disgrace. I think they taste like cat wee (not that I would know what cat wee tastes like but it is a pretty good guess going by the smell!). My boyfriend has to be the biggest sports mixtures fan in the world and was gutted when they changed them. They are now greasy and horribly chewy.
Posted: 18:39 Thu 15-Sep-2005 by "Dannii" # permalink comment
Comment: IM SOOO SAD!!!!!!!!!!! i just got a pack of sports mixtures, and, thinking that they just ADDED the new blackcurrent flavour, i was like "oooh, i wonder if it tastes nice" then i was like "OMG!! THERE ARE NO LIQUORICE ONES!!!!" now im really sad, i LOVED the liquorice ones... now im really depressed =(
Posted: 20:29 Thu 15-Sep-2005 by "Becky" # permalink comment
Comment: Sorry for not posting for a while. I have been busy with five bags of Lions Midget Gems. Sadly, they appear to have been the last from my local Woolies. But I will keep checking. I did try contacting Woolies but couldn't find anyone who could discuss proper sweets.
Posted: 16:05 Thu 22-Sep-2005 by "Jim" # permalink comment
Comment: I totally agree with the comments posted here - I have just had my first bag of maynards sports mixtures. The blackcurrent ones are vile and the other ones taste slightly different. They are softer too. I thought I was just being hypercritical (and a bit sad) but this site confirms my first impressions. Cheers Jim
Posted: 23:55 Thu 22-Sep-2005 by "Jim" # permalink comment
Comment: Maynards have totally spoiled lions sports mixtures. I have been eating sports mixtures for 40 years and thoroughly enjoyed the black ones. Maynards have introduced a vile blackcurrant flavour
Posted: 00:09 Fri 23-Sep-2005 by "GTO" # permalink comment
Comment: I buy Wine Gums on a regular basis as they're on of my absolute favourite sweets. I don't care if they've gotten softer, I actually prefer them slightly less Jaw-crippling. As long as they stay Sane, Maynards will find it hard to ruin Wine Gums.
Posted: 08:14 Fri 23-Sep-2005 by "Stew" # permalink comment
Comment: I just had my first bag of Maynards Sport Mixtures and they're not the same. The blackcurrant is awful and all of the gums and softer and require less chewing. Many were also badly misshaped, which suggests a softer mix.

They now resemble some own-brand imitation of the real thing.

Lions were never the cheapest gums, but were always very satisfying. The new ones have lost that something special.


Posted: 00:57 Tue 27-Sep-2005 by "liz" # permalink comment
Comment: I dont mind the taste of the new blackcurrant flavour, or the new texture, their ok, its just that I'm wondering, where are all my bloody black ones!
Posted: 03:57 Wed 28-Sep-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: i see you lot are still yambling on about them...
Posted: 07:09 Thu 29-Sep-2005 by "Greg" # permalink comment
Comment: I complained to my newsagent after buying a bag of pretend Lions wine gums he said he had alot of complaints, later after reading you could get genuine ones in 3kg boxes I told my newsagent he went off and bought a box. I was so dissapointed they have been tampered with as well not as bad as the prepackaged but they are not Lions wine gums. I feel quite guilty as I told my newsagent I would buy them if he bought a box. Maynards please please bring back Lions midget gems and wine gums I am lost without them I have been addicted to them for must be forty years the withdrawal effects are awefull must have tried 50 types of disgusting gums looking for a replacement please please addict Greg
Posted: 08:34 Thu 29-Sep-2005 by "Greg" # permalink comment
Comment: After trying all these different gums the best ones are at co-op pic&mix, texture is chewy but they taste really fruity they are supplied by a company from Peterborough. Do not buy Co-op own brand I did this thinking they may be the same they are disgusting.
Posted: 14:48 Mon 03-Oct-2005 by "Mark" # permalink comment
Comment: You may be interested to know that I found small packets of Sports Mixture on Saturday in a newsagents in Wilmslow, Cheshire which contained the black ones. I'd not seen this size pack before but it certainly contained the black ones. Looks like new stock as well because the sell by date was in 2006. Cost 42p/packet.
Posted: 21:52 Mon 03-Oct-2005 by "linnylou"
(apparently posting from 81.6.217.29: 81-6-217-29.gotadsl.co.uk) # permalink comment
Comment: I have been buying Lions sports mixtures and midget gems for the past 54 years and the flavours and consistency have remained constant but now they have been taken on by Maynards they are very substandard, the flavours have been watered down and the consistency is much softer. I WILL NOT BE BUYING ANYMORE!
Posted: 22:13 Mon 03-Oct-2005 by "Brad Ford" # permalink comment
Comment: Although the Maynards are far better than the ones they use to produce, the Lion is the King of the Jungle and Lions Confectionary are King of the Gums. Stop messing with my sweets.
Posted: 22:44 Mon 03-Oct-2005 by "Sandy" # permalink comment
Comment: Maynards should do what they do best and bring back the round little powdery milk gums they did in a roll. Stick to what you know and stop messing with established stuff!
Posted: 19:21 Tue 04-Oct-2005 by "Kat Goodman"
(apparently posting from 62.252.224.17: leed-cache-6.server.ntli.net) # permalink comment
Comment: Whats happened to Sports Mixtures??? The blacks are fruity, the licorice broke up the lovely fruity flavours that also appear to have changed. Don't get me started on the chewability factor which now appears to be more gummy. If I wanted Wine Gums, I would buy a packet!!!!!! Please, please, please check your market research and listen to the general public. Bring back the old Lions flavours!!!!!!!
Posted: 10:49 Thu 06-Oct-2005 by "Michael Caine" # permalink comment
Comment: Great to see that I am not the only one to be devastated by the new version of Midget Gems and Sports Mixtures - my favourite sweets for over 40 years. No one has mentioned that if you didn't like the liquorice flavour (my favourite)you could always buy Lions Fruit Salad - with a fruit flavoured black one. Bring back the original recipe! I have only bought one bag of the new variety, and will not be buying anymore!
Posted: 11:30 Thu 06-Oct-2005 by "jb" # permalink comment
Comment: Not the only one? For goodness sake there are more of you than voters for the Labour Party. You are like some sort of minority group! So set up another website where you can vent to your hearts' content about the loss of the black ones!
Posted: 18:49 Thu 06-Oct-2005 by "bertie bassett" # permalink comment
Comment: 200th post! erm ...
Posted: 19:19 Mon 10-Oct-2005 by "Kevin" # permalink comment
Comment: Just found this thread and have to add my own comments. I flew in from the U.S and promply hunted around for the lion brand. There is a unique flavour to the liquorice ones that I haven't found in anything else, when you mix the liquorice with one red and one white it's totally unique. I throw the orange and green away, but don't want to demand they remove them, unlike Mr Campbell and his disgust. When I brought several bags back to the US people loved them. Some didn't like the black and some did (each to his own)

I went out for a pint with a couple of mates and they told me of Maynards take over and the removal of the black in favour of the new blackcurrent. I noticed Stuart Campbell said there is candy of the same recipe as the black ones so I'll hunt them down and see if he's right. However if he found the blacks disgusting then he's not a liquorice freak like myself and wouldn't know the differences in liquorice flavours. I fly back in two days and have been to every shop in the area that sells sweets but to no avail, none of the old ones were found.

To the people who like the new flavour, fine, but couldn't they have added that and kept the black?

I know Mr Campbell will most likely, under whatever guise he now assumes, be derogatory, as will 'bob' but it would be a really boring world if we all liked the same damn tastes.

Thanks to the people who are trying to bring back the black, I'll email myself this link and keep watching though they have never sold the lion in the U.S so I get to eat them once every few years.


Posted: 22:42 Tue 11-Oct-2005 by "CRANKY" # permalink comment
Comment: JUST NOT MUCH TO SAY,GUTTED AT THE LOSS OFF THE LIQUORICE ONES FOR THE FRUITY ONES,JUST CANT MIX AND MATCH ANYMORE.GUTTED.
Posted: 13:03 Wed 12-Oct-2005 by "Rod" # permalink comment
Comment: Still buying Original Sports Mixture and Midget Gems with the Licorice from Sheffield on the way home. Shop keeper is adamant that Lion are still making them in this 3kg box to sell loose. Is this true or are they old stock? Taste fresh and delicious to me. Haven't bought the Fake Maynard Crap since I first saw them. Marriage broke up because I banned the missus from eating Cadbury's chocolate. Come on Lion are you still making them? or does the conspiracy go on! For gods sake help me! My world is crumbling around me. What do I do when the last remnants of my Licorice flavoured confection have run out. It reminds me somewhat of the 'Nazis a Warning from History' programme I have been watching on UKTV History. Hardly history how long is it before Cadbury start setting up concentration camps to put the contributors to this site in?
Posted: 16:08 Wed 12-Oct-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Great to see that emotions are still running high even after over 200 posts! (although admittedly the first few posts were about Aniseed Imperials). The biskitz4cheez 'Don't Spoil Sports' wallpaper is still available from http://www.biskitz4cheez.com/misc/gum.jpg if you wish to publicise your gum-preferences on your monitor... Mr Snackspot - how many contributions are needed for this thread to be one of the top topics?
Posted: 17:56 Wed 12-Oct-2005 by "BIG JAKE"
(apparently posting from 195.93.21.100: cache-los-ad04.proxy.aol.com) # permalink comment
Comment: Having just come across this site by accident i can't tell you how chuffed i am that i seem to be in the majority. Old style Sports Mixtures? YES PLEASE. In my opinion the new Ones do taste crap, and the liquorice was way way the best flavour ever. I used to love mixing Midget Gems and Sports Mixtures. Now Maynards have them i hate both. Good work guys.
Posted: 16:25 Thu 13-Oct-2005 by "Dawn Sloan" # permalink comment
Comment: I am a newcomer to Sports Mixture, but my boyfriend has always been a fan, but I had never heard of them. So a shop near us stocked them, so we bought them now and again. A few weeks ago we were chomping away happily I ate a licquorice one and said I wasn't keen, and he repied with I haven't found one yet, then we both realised I had eaten the only licquorice one in the pack and the rest were all blackcurrant! (Which I preferred) but was this a "changeover pack" as it had one stray licquorice one in it - very strange! Or are they doing both flavours? The mystery goes on. I think my boyfriend prefers the licquorice ones!
Posted: 21:53 Thu 13-Oct-2005 by "Stella" # permalink comment
Comment: I don't like liquorice
Posted: 22:00 Thu 13-Oct-2005 by "Phillerena" # permalink comment
Comment: Me either. After trying some new Sports Mix, yeah they are softer, but not as distinct as the old version.
Posted: 00:44 Tue 18-Oct-2005 by "Expat " # permalink comment
Comment: Only visit UK once a year and to my horror on the last visit find Midgets and Sports changed and no black ones! Relent corporate scumbags and give us back our originals.
Posted: 05:54 Tue 18-Oct-2005 by "clerk" # permalink comment
Comment: Rod - they're old stock. We sell the 3kg loose boxes from Monkhill (division of Cadbury) at the cash+carry I work at.
Posted: 20:45 Tue 18-Oct-2005 by "adrian " # permalink comment
Comment: maynards what have you done to sweets i have eaten for 58 years
Posted: 09:32 Wed 19-Oct-2005 by "Rod" # permalink comment
Comment: Thanks 'clerk'. The end is nigh! Not being one to start a rumour but Maynards Sports Mixture and Midget Gems have been possibly poisoned with bird flu particularly those blackcurrant ones! Of course it is a well known fact that licorice is a wonderful treatment and cure for bird flu most efficacious in every way. Ask Lilly the Pink.
Posted: 18:51 Thu 20-Oct-2005 by "jenny plummeridge"
(apparently posting from 86.131.65.132: host86-131-65-132.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) # permalink comment
Comment: wont be buying sports mixture anymore, since maynnards have taken over. yuk. bring back lions.
Posted: 19:27 Thu 20-Oct-2005 by "bob" # permalink comment
Comment: OMFG!! as you old farts are soon on your way out, use new lot dont like liquorice as much so....end off!
Posted: 21:06 Thu 20-Oct-2005 by "Phillerena" # permalink comment
Comment: I saw some Lions butterscotch flavour gums today at the market. Anyone ever tried any?
Posted: 00:23 Mon 24-Oct-2005 by "Mike" # permalink comment
Comment: Has an ex-pat now living in the States I always enjoyed family coming over when they brought the Lion's Sports. Today when I opened my first bag........... I knew they were fake. That's what prompted me to check up on it. Them lying bastards at Maynards know they've changed the recipe/formula. You can tell just by looking at them. How do they explain that? If, like they say, they are made at the same factory maybe someone that as worked there under the Lion management might give us some insight to any differences. Anybody who lives close to the factory or knows somebody who lives close to the factory should make some discreet enquires. Somebody as to pay for this. Mike
Posted: 23:52 Mon 24-Oct-2005 by "GTO" # permalink comment
Comment: Haven't tried these Butterscotch gums, but they seem to be widely available...

http://www.thesweetcorner.co.uk/Home.aspx?ProductID=186


Posted: 16:49 Wed 26-Oct-2005 by "Marc" # permalink comment
Comment: Wasn't there Sports Mixtures for the Licorice and Fruit Salad for the Blackcurrent? If so why are they changing it?
Posted: 18:36 Sun 30-Oct-2005 by "Rod" # permalink comment
Comment: I have tried Lion Butterscotch Gums and wasn't too impressed, they don't taste like butterscotch. Still getting 'Old Stock'Sports and Gems with the licorice from Sheffield, but it won't be long now before the conspiracy deepens. I have been informed that Margaret Thatcher is on the board at Cadbury. Look what she did to the miners and the General Belgrano evil bitch! Bring back the Originals you B*****ds!
Posted: 20:29 Sun 30-Oct-2005 by "jb" # permalink comment
Comment: Actually the whole debacle smells more like one of new labour's little scams. They are always improving things without really changing anything except for the one thing that actually worked. Mind you I never liked Sports Mixture anyway.
Posted: 16:42 Wed 02-Nov-2005 by "Keano bros" # permalink comment
Comment: Sports mixtures was our favourite. What the hell have they done to them ? They taste like European directive No.1. Will never buy again . More history gone to ruin. Why can't wonderful things be left alone ?
Posted: 18:18 Wed 02-Nov-2005 by "Nurg" # permalink comment
Comment: Please can this stop?! It's not enough for people that there are far more important things to think about in this world than bagged sweets. Oh no. There's the need to go on and ON reiterating what people have said 50 comments previously on a site that has no power to bring back your liquorice sweets.

Stop banging on about it, if you want to get something done redirect your energies towards somebody who can do something about the problem. Less of this government /youth /greedy corporations/ aliens/ the EU have ruined our lives, I opened a bag and promptly had kidney failure at the changes, how dare you Maynards, this is the only food I ever liked etc...

I'm not opposed to the idea of protest and debate but over 200 comments just of whinge and grumble is getting ever so boring.


Posted: 19:47 Wed 02-Nov-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: You obviously haven't quite grasped the importance of this issue and the strength of feeling, Nurg... !
Posted: 07:27 Thu 03-Nov-2005 by "Cap'n Crisps" # permalink comment
Comment: I think you mean the strength of mass hysteria. They taste exactly the same as before to me.
Posted: 10:27 Thu 03-Nov-2005 by "Rod" # permalink comment
Comment: Good to see you still carrying the flag for common sense Biskits4cheez. Its Nurds like Nurg who keep banging on about Iraq, when we all no the real conspiracy is firmly in the hands of Cadbury and his Quaker Henchmen. Forget Iraq Bring back the Liquorice.
Posted: 15:30 Thu 03-Nov-2005 by "sweetiemuncher" # permalink comment
Comment: Hey - I've just eaten an aniseed imperial - they're one of my favourite sweets - they are so strong that my tongue goes numb! I found this website while trying to find a vendor near me that sells tham (closest I know of is 20 miles away, and v expensive) - they sell the mint imperials in bags, but they are small and round (think "malteser") instead of large, round and flat (think oversize "minstrel"). Why don't they do them in bags?????? But I may move on to aniseed balls if I can find a supplier......
Posted: 15:48 Thu 03-Nov-2005 by "sweetiemuncher" # permalink comment
Comment: For all you "Lion" liquorice gums fans - they sell them on the website sweetshop.com - just the liquorice onees!! All is not lost!
Posted: 14:39 Mon 07-Nov-2005 by "Tom" # permalink comment
Comment: Just to add to the petition I am also shocked and dismayed to find the tampered black sports mixtures in the maynards pack. I wish someone had told me this was going to happen and then I could have properly savoured my last ever real black sports mixture.
Posted: 14:04 Wed 09-Nov-2005 by "Linsey"
(apparently posting from 194.128.65.167: ) # permalink comment
Comment: Have found a local "wee shop" that still sells the Lion ones,the guy says he will continue to sell them as long as he can get his hands on them. You'll have to travel to Uphall though, next to the chippy!! - My jaws are killin me!!
Posted: 15:16 Mon 14-Nov-2005 by "JB Bradford" # permalink comment
Comment: Having lived within five miles of the original Lion Confectionery factory all my life and thoroughly enjoyed all their products during that time (almost 66 years), I am absolutely disgusted that after the takeover by Maynards, the products are now completely unrecognisable to the original. I was told that the name was changed because "Lion" was not a known name in the south of England and therefore not marketable> If they must change the name to sell them down south, fine, but why have they changed the product completely? The gums have taken on that gluey texture of the old Maynards rubbish whilst using the Lion logo to con people into thinking that these are the real thing. Absolutely scandolous! If Maynards, or whoever they are now, want to sell these in the South, fine, but give us back the original Lions products as they have been for decades. Or I for one will stop buying the products - something that I suggest all other disallusioned lovers of the "real thing" do as well
Posted: 18:07 Mon 14-Nov-2005 by "Neil" # permalink comment
Comment: I was going to give that Campbell idiot a piece of my mind, but I am pleased to see that he's buggered off; the miserable old scrote.

Thank goodness that there is a revolution growing. Has anyone at Maynards even tasted a real blackcurrent? The black S/Ms taste like I would imagine those deodorising blocks found in public urinals taste like.

Get a grip Maynards stop trying to make confectionery. you should have left it to the Lions professionals instead of giving everything the Proctor and Gamble/Dow Corning treatment.


Posted: 20:27 Mon 14-Nov-2005 by "Barry Maddison" # permalink comment
Comment: I moved to London 20 yrs ago and couldn't get Lion's midget gems anywhere.My Mother and other relatives had to bring them to me on visits.When they started to appear in London shops I could not believe my luck.Now the marketing men have got a hold of them and ruined one of the most sensational taste experiences on the planet.What the hell am I going to use in the car on a long journey now?
Posted: 00:43 Tue 22-Nov-2005 by "Gantock" # permalink comment
Comment: Almost twenty years ago I was told that the owner of small privately owned Lion company had sold out to Trebor,I think it was. My opinion is that after that, the gums were sweeter and had less flavour, albeit still acceptable. The original manufacturing process was not viable in mass production. This latest change is a dramatic one. What we have now does not resemble the original product. It appears to be part of the Cadburys conglomerate's push towards sugar intensive blandness.

Not so much "what the public want", as Cadburys encouraging a dumbing down of taste to maximise high product margin returns.


Posted: 01:17 Tue 22-Nov-2005 by "Gantock" # permalink comment
Comment: Almost twenty years ago I was told that the owner of small privately owned Lion company had sold out to Trebor,I think it was. My opinion is that after that, the gums were sweeter and had less flavour, albeit still acceptable. The original manufacturing process was not viable in mass production. This latest change is a dramatic one. What we have now does not resemble the original product. It appears to be part of the Cadburys conglomerate's push towards sugar intensive blandness.

Not so much "what the public want", as Cadburys encouraging a dumbing down of taste to maximise high product margin returns.


Posted: 09:01 Tue 22-Nov-2005 by "Cap'n Crisps" # permalink comment
Comment: Er, if they "sold out to Trebor" 20 years ago, then it would be quite strange for them to have now "sold out" to Maynards, since Trebor and Maynards are both part of the same company (Cadbury).

The lunatic conspiracy theories on this get funnier and funnier.


Posted: 20:22 Tue 22-Nov-2005 by "Gantock" # permalink comment
Comment: The original Lions company was sold some time back. I do not believe that it has recently been resold to Maynards. This is probably just a rebranding exercise

The Cap's comments are rude and shallow. He might try reading the post before making cheap jibes.


Posted: 18:04 Sat 26-Nov-2005 by "jb" # permalink comment
Comment: Yesterday I decided to buy a bag of new Midget Gems. After all I figured I would have to try them again sometime because of all the debate the changes have sparked. I did not much care for the originals but I liked the ones I ate yesterday. Well done Maynards. I shall buy more.
Posted: 18:57 Sat 26-Nov-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: What nonsense, jb. You're just trying to spread dissent... I wouldn't be at all surprised if you were an employee of Maynards.
Posted: 21:01 Sat 26-Nov-2005 by "jb" # permalink comment
Comment: Nope sadly not I ma completely umeployed. I honestly liked the Midget Gems.
Posted: 23:06 Sat 26-Nov-2005 by "Steve" # permalink comment
Comment: I've only just discoverd this website - glad to find some like minded people re the demise of Sports Mixure's black un's. I wrote to Baroness Wilcox (director of Cadbury Schweppes and according to their website a lover of all things liquorice)in May and received the following reply from Simon Baldry (MD CS UK Confectionery)in July: "Thank you for your recent letter to Baroness Wilcox concerning Maynards Sports Mix. As you quite rightly state we have recently replaced the liquorice unit with a Blackcurrant sweet in Sports Mix. As the leading confectionery manufacturer in the UK, it is important that we reflect the latest in consumer tastes to ensure appeal and availability of our brands to the widest range of consumers. The market research, we conducted in making this change amongst all our target consumers, indicated a preference for the blackcurrant mix and a potential increase in sales for this product. As I am sure you will appreciate this is an important consideration, enabling us to compete more effectively and ensure the continuity of this product for the longer term. The recipe for the remainder of the sweets has not been changed and these sweets are still made to the same high standard as previously. We do appreciate however, that some of our consumers who preferred the old Liquorice sweet may now be disappointed. As an alternative you can purchase in packs and weigh out form Liquorice Tablets that are the same recipe as the Liquorice Sports Mix. If you have problems finding them locally you can contact the The Chocolate Shop in Cleckheaton where they offer a postal service. Their contact number is 01274 878700".

A typical corporate response and sadly I've not been near a bag since.


Posted: 01:39 Sun 27-Nov-2005 by "clerk" # permalink comment
Comment: That's not a typical corporate response. They were actually *helpful* by suggesting a good alternative!

Good on them.


Posted: 09:01 Sun 27-Nov-2005 by "Cap'n Crisps" # permalink comment
Comment: Just out of interest, what evidence WOULD the trouble-stirrers here accept as proof that the sweets hadn't changed at all apart from the black ones?
Posted: 22:56 Mon 28-Nov-2005 by "Rod" # permalink comment
Comment: Well "jb" I think you should get off your fat arse and get a job instead of meddling in something you obviously no nothing about. Why are you on the internet spending dole money instead of getting a job. I dont want to see you here again you layabout.
Posted: 00:32 Tue 29-Nov-2005 by "Fleeble Doohopsey" # permalink comment
Comment: Well "Rod" I think you should get off your fat arse and get a life instead of whingeing about situations you so obviously can do nothing about. Why are you on the internet bitching at individuals just because they don't share your opinion? I don't want to see you here again, you idiot.
Posted: 07:09 Tue 29-Nov-2005 by "jb" # permalink comment
Comment: Dear Rod my arse is not fat and I am not a layabout I am a student who does not have time for a job. Nor do I collect the dole. I am entitled to my opinion under article 10 of the European Convention of Human Rights. Which incase you don't know is the right to free speech. I like the new black Midget Gems, get over it.
Posted: 21:10 Tue 29-Nov-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: This discussion seems to have taken a rather unpleasant turn... let's keep it gentlemanly, shall we... ?
Posted: 05:48 Wed 30-Nov-2005 by "Mark" # permalink comment
Comment: Crikey, can't believe how worked up people can get over these bloody sweets. Look out the window for a second. Notice how life is going on ? If you like them, eat them. If you don't like them, don't eat them.
Posted: 19:19 Wed 30-Nov-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Mark - whilst I accept 'life is going on', your two options don't actually cover the scenario we've been discussing - what can we do if there's something that we *did* like that is no longer available for consumption... ?
Posted: 20:01 Wed 30-Nov-2005 by "Cap'n Crisps" # permalink comment
Comment: But it is.
Posted: 08:18 Thu 01-Dec-2005 by "Mark" # permalink comment
Comment: biskitz4cheez, see Point 1 - 'life goes on'..... ;-) and be thankful you are in the UK where you can access some of the best sweets in the world. Here in Australia the last Sports Mix I had was imported specially at an exorbitant price! Luckily i'll be there in 4 weeks and can stock up on some of those sweets you take for granted!
Posted: 23:01 Thu 01-Dec-2005 by "gordon" # permalink comment
Comment: it looks as if we have seen the end of the proper black sports mixture/midget gem. However i cant recall such an outcry when the white/opaque midget gem disappeared about 15 years ago. P.S. - - can anyone remember when victory v where actually hot. It was about 25 years ago that they were "changed for the better"
Posted: 00:04 Fri 02-Dec-2005 by "clerk" # permalink comment
Comment: > However i cant recall such an outcry when the white/opaque midget gem disappeared about 15 years ago.

Oh, if the web had existed then, there would have been...


Posted: 18:00 Fri 02-Dec-2005 by "gordon" # permalink comment
Comment: Black and white gone. There is only green left that i like, i suppose i will have to look for something else.
Posted: 19:18 Fri 02-Dec-2005 by "Cap'n Crisps" # permalink comment
Comment: The white one (pear) is still there.
Posted: 10:32 Sun 04-Dec-2005 by "gordon" # permalink comment
Comment: All the white ones must be specially removed whenever i buy midget gems. Like i said i haven`t seen one for about 15 years
Posted: 17:41 Mon 05-Dec-2005 by "horace" # permalink comment
Comment: well on the old farts sweets thing... liquorice was used as a laxative in the days when there was not a lot of roughage about.... thats why old farts got used to the taste, and still hanker after it... get yourself a decent diet or some pills
Posted: 22:05 Thu 08-Dec-2005 by "consideredcomment" # permalink comment
Comment: An extract from a recent article:

"Liquorice contains Vitamin E, B-complex, biotin, niacin, pantothenic acid, lecithin, manganese as well as many other trace elements Ė try saying that with your mouth full. Both the Ancient Greeks and Chinese knew the medicinal properties of liquorice, where it gained a reputation for helping the body during times of stress. By the 14th Century, Liquorice was being used to help relieve colds, coughs, and bronchitis. Even today it can still be found in many cough medicines. And it doesnít stop in the middle ages! Recent research has shown that liquorice can help to treat and control the pain of certain types of ulcer, and, as it has anti-inflammatory qualities, it can help to relieve the discomfort of arthritic conditions, and, when mixed with other anti-spasmodic herbs, menstrual pain."

Clearly "horace" should switch to a liquorice diet, especially as he exhibits most of the symptoms of the last listed complaint. There is no need for him to continue suffering.


Posted: 19:36 Fri 09-Dec-2005 by "Sandy" # permalink comment
Comment: "A 62-year-old man was admitted with severe hypokalemia following ingestion of a modest amount of liquorice during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan. Hypokalemia was associated with typical electrocardiographic changes, marked acid-base disturbance and complicated by rhabdomyolysis. All abnormalities improved with normalisation of serum potassium. The serum creatine kinase isoenzymes (CK-total and MB) returned to normal over a prolonged period."

Maybe Maynards want to prevent any future lawsuits...


Posted: 13:48 Tue 13-Dec-2005 by "julian" # permalink comment
Comment: i was realy disappointed to find that after so many years they have stopped making the black ones(my favourites) its just so not rite i have stopped buying them.
Posted: 11:14 Tue 20-Dec-2005 by "Rod" # permalink comment
Comment: Well I can honestly say this is my last comment on the whole subject. I have stopped buying the Maynards versions of Sports Mixture and Midget Gems. However I have bought the last 3kg box of Lions Midget Gems from Makro at Halesowen. They are delicious particularly the Licorice and the Pear ones (which I am chewing now) Its been fun but its time to move on. Perhaps Cadbury will listen of which I doubt. Have a nice Christmas and prosperous new year even Bob and jb. Cadbury can rot in hell lying thieving ba*****s!
Posted: 12:26 Tue 20-Dec-2005 by "Sharman" # permalink comment
Comment: BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL BLACK LIQUORICE SWEET WITH SPORTS MIXTURES

THE NEW ONE IS HORRIBLE - STOP SPOILING OUR HERITAGE- SEND THESE COMMENTS TO MAYNARDS


Posted: 15:18 Tue 20-Dec-2005 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Looks like we might be having a Yuletide surge of emotion, no doubt prompted by the prospect of the sheer disappointment of opening those festive bags of 'new' Sports Mixture...
Posted: 05:02 Mon 26-Dec-2005 by "Japanese Jock" # permalink comment
Comment: I just found this site today. Thank god, I thought I was the only person who was suffering because of the absence of the liquorice Sports Mixtures. I'm a Scotsman living in Japan and rely on family members to send me out gums (regularly opened by Japanese customs, by the way, in the belief that they must be drugs - I told them they could keep the blackcurrant one in future). You can get a geisha here, but you can't get Sports Mixtures for love nor money. My life is now in tatters because I can't get the right combination of flavours. Help!
Posted: 16:54 Mon 26-Dec-2005 by "Alastair"
(apparently posting from 86.139.120.13: host86-139-120-13.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) # permalink comment
Comment: I've been a lover of Sports Mixture since I was a boy in the 1960's. I remember them being sold lose at four for a penny (old money)and can distintly remember on one occasion buying two shillings worth of the black ones - my favourite. The poor woman in the newsagents had to pick out and count all 96 of them.(On reflection forty years later, it was perhaps a bit inconsiderate of me in depleting most of the black ones from the box, so I'll say a belated sorry to anyone who's 'mixture' was missing the blacks). Anyway, to move on, I have treated myself to an occasional bag of SM's over the years. (As I'm now diabetic, a bag has to last a long time.)Yesterday - Christmas day - a present of a bag of the 'new' version. Right away, I detected that they were not the same product. A quick google search on 'Sports Mixture' brought me to this site, and the realisation that it was not all in my head. They have definately changed ...and not for the better.
Posted: 05:33 Wed 04-Jan-2006 by "Lyn Boyce" # permalink comment
Comment: Why couldn't Bassett's just leave well enough alone, these were the best gums in the world. I live in Canada and am always excited when family and friends pack their suitcases with 'Sports Mixtures' just for me when they come for a visit from the UK. Just received the latest version and boy am I dissapointed, the liquorice was my favourite. I had been enjoying these gums for over 40 years. I guess my friends suitcases will be empty from now on. Bah Humbug
Posted: 09:57 Tue 17-Jan-2006 by "katreena" # permalink comment
Comment: Alastair, I agree, the black liquice one's were my favorite too. How disapointed I am. I only buy them for the black one's and i make many freind's giving the others away.
Posted: 22:57 Thu 19-Jan-2006 by "elaine" # permalink comment
Comment: Sports Mixtures and midget gems were a real treat so I couldn't agree more it was with HUGE disappointment that I tasted the improved product, and yes I do have a life but I will miss one of the tastes I have enjoyed for so many years by the way the black ones were my favourite too !!!!
Posted: 16:10 Fri 20-Jan-2006 by "so long my sweet friends" # permalink comment
Comment: well what can i say thats it my corner shop as gone onto the new bags now so thats it me fav sweet gone forever (hope not maybe they will bring the black ones back)... but i ain't gonna hold my breath WHY MESS WITH SOMETHING WE ALL LIKE .. and just think of the psychological damage you have caused on the poor fruit ones.......AND your loyal munchers. So long lion original sports mixtures we will all miss you... yours loyally
Posted: 12:58 Wed 25-Jan-2006 by "Paul Seale" # permalink comment
Comment: It is worth noting that in addition to sports mixtures and midget gems lion also produced "friut salad" where the black flavour was always blackcurrant. The shapes were assorted fruit peices pineapples, raspberries, limes etc. Anyone remeber them?
Posted: 18:35 Wed 01-Feb-2006 by "John Culshaw"
(apparently posting from 195.93.21.102: cache-los-ad06.proxy.aol.com) # permalink comment
Comment: You can still get the 'original' Lions Sports Mixtures, Midget Gems etc with the liquorice black ones from traditional sweet retailors. If you look on my website, you will be able to get these and many other of the traditional sweets! You can buy them in 200gms, jars or boxes!http://www.thesweetcorner.co.uk
Posted: 18:42 Wed 01-Feb-2006 by "John Culshaw"
(apparently posting from 195.93.21.102: cache-los-ad06.proxy.aol.com) # permalink comment
Comment: Again you can still get the Lions Fruit Salad. Check out my website! http://www.thesweetcorner.co.uk
Posted: 21:03 Wed 08-Feb-2006 by "name" # permalink comment
Comment: what have maynards done to sports mixtures and midget gems? they are far to soft no differrent to wine gums and where has the licquorice flavour gone? hand back over to lions.
Posted: 22:03 Tue 28-Feb-2006 by "tim" # permalink comment
Comment: Bring back the original Lion midget Gems with Liquorice black ones. Death to blackcurrant imitators.
Posted: 13:41 Mon 06-Mar-2006 by "seamus duff" # permalink comment
Comment: I would like to add that the 'new' blackcurrant flavour is an abomination and an insult to the original liquorice. The original 'black gums' provided the contrast that complimented the other more palatable flavours.
Posted: 23:55 Sat 11-Mar-2006 by "Daniel" # permalink comment
Comment: You are all right.

The new maynards ones can go to hell.

BRING BACK THE OLD LIONS SPORTS MIXTURE!!!

EVERYONE WRITE TO MAYNARDS AND TELL THEM HOW MUCH WE HATE THE BLACK CURRANT.


Posted: 17:02 Sun 12-Mar-2006 by "Mick" # permalink comment
Comment: Black sports mixtures / midget gems were the best ones. The blackcurrant ones SUCK!.
Posted: 17:53 Mon 20-Mar-2006 by "val" # permalink comment
Comment: Isold Lion's sports mxt. and now refuse to stock them because of customer complaints about the change over from Licorice to blackcurrant! And I must say I have to agree with them and Maynard,s take note... the customer's always right!
Posted: 17:55 Mon 20-Mar-2006 by "clerk" # permalink comment
Comment: Except: Maynards can't *do* anything. They're not a company any more - they're simply a brand name of Cadbury Trebor Bassett.

Sorry, I know I'm pedantic, but it just irritates me.


Posted: 21:11 Tue 21-Mar-2006 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: pedantry is a very commendable virtue, clerk... - some of us would call it 'accuracy' !
Posted: 14:56 Fri 31-Mar-2006 by "Keano Bros." # permalink comment
Comment: My younger brother found two pounds of Lion Brand original sports mixtures, in a small store in Northumberland yesterday . Probably well past their sell by date( bit like us maybe ) ! Hey but who cares? We know they will taste a million times better than Maynards "Watersports" mixtures. Who in their right mind would want a blackcurrant cricket bat, instead of lovely liquorice ?
Posted: 16:34 Fri 31-Mar-2006 by "Robert" # permalink comment
Comment: Get a LIFE you MORONS!
Posted: 18:53 Mon 03-Apr-2006 by "Simon B" # permalink comment
Comment: What's getting a life go to do with wanting to buy something you like to eat ??

Seems those who are prepared to sit back in silence fall into 'lifeless' category.


Posted: 13:59 Tue 11-Apr-2006 by "Janet"
(apparently posting from 86.135.241.86: host86-135-241-86.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) # permalink comment
Comment: evryone here at work adores the old Lion sports mixtures-the new maynards ones are awful-big secret is that you can still buy the old ones at the trad sweet shop in Malton north yorks...buy a kilo whilst they last!
Posted: 16:25 Thu 13-Apr-2006 by "Keith" # permalink comment
Comment: I too have eaten these sweets for forty odd years. They have definitely changed. I tracked down a source of the originals being sold from a jar. Bliss. The shop keeper said that they had been changed because people in the south disliked the liquourice.
Posted: 19:17 Thu 27-Apr-2006 by "Jeff" # permalink comment
Comment: Its the same old story. Trebor took over Maynards (in my opinion the finest wine gum made)and merely re-named their inferior product. Now they have done the same to Lions product. Trebor seem unable to make a decent hard gum. All however, is not lost, I have this evening discovered Lions Liquorice gums, sold seperately, (62p 113g) in my local Morrisons (Gloucester). and can now mix with a bag of Fruit Salad gums and (almost) recreate my beloved Sports Mixture. Bet Trebor didn't 'factor that in' when planning their marketing strategy!
Posted: 19:18 Thu 27-Apr-2006 by "Sandy" # permalink comment
Comment: Yeah it seems to be true that Trebor gums are softer, as I used to like Milk Gums in the 80's but now they are soft and squishy.
Posted: 22:33 Mon 01-May-2006 by "Terry" # permalink comment
Comment: I first met the 'New' SM on a trip to London last summer and I could hardly believe that the liquorice had gone. I wrote to Trebor Bassett and complained bitterly about the missing black jewels. My wife loved the fruity ones and I loved the liquorice ones, so we regularly shared a packet, but not anymore. Anyway, Trebor told me that Lion Liquorice Tablets are the same recipe as the original SM and are available in packets and loose, so now I buy my own black jewels mail order from an on-line sweet shop. Just google for them. .....and if my wife and I drift apart, it will be Trebor's fault.
Posted: 18:31 Mon 08-May-2006 by "mandy" # permalink comment
Comment: bring back the licorice ones
Posted: 18:36 Mon 08-May-2006 by "mandy" # permalink comment
Comment: bring back the liquorice ones
Posted: 19:44 Tue 09-May-2006 by "jerry the berry" # permalink comment
Comment: what are they playing at! i went bananas when i realised they had been replaced!!
Posted: 10:56 Sat 20-May-2006 by "Pen drag" # permalink comment
Comment: The concept of "Sports Mixtures" is something that the people at Maynards don't unnderstand. It's not do do with the taste of the individual sweets, but the way they interact as a whole. It's the same as people just downloading individual tracks of an album instead of listening to the whole album. With Sports Mixtures, you can start off with the fruit ones, but after a few, the sweetness is to overwhelming. Then you pop in a liquorice one and the pallet is cleansed and the whole cycle can start again. I read with interest the comment from someone that used to get the shop owner to just extract the liquorice ones by themselves and just buy those. I remember doing that once to, and that was when I began to understand the total Sports Mixture concept, because, even though the liquoice one was always my favourite, it needed to be eaten in the context of the contrasting fruit flavours. Also, could I mention concerrning the discusion about if there have been any other changes to the sweets,the original ones seemed to be a lot rougher in finish, probably because of the more poorly finished moulds used in the manufacture. I much prefered this roughness and together with the hardness produced by eating on a cold day, you could really do serious damage to the roof of your mouth.
Posted: 18:59 Sun 21-May-2006 by "Rod" # permalink comment
Comment: Having not visited for a long time I thought I would add my twopeneth again. Still buying Lion Sports Mixture and Midget Gems with Licorice in 3KG Boxes from Makro. They must still be making the old ones! Spoke to Cadbury waller at P&H Pro Retail and the snotty nosed bitch insisted that the sales of New Sports Mixture are up by 20%. I pointed out that this maybe due to introducing them to the southerners and that overall sales of bags on forecourts seem to be down... she had no answer!
Posted: 18:37 Tue 30-May-2006 by "salsamad" # permalink comment
Comment: I can't believe that they have changed sports mix and midget gems so much. Miss the liquorice ones and also the white midget gems. Just to add that my children, 16 & 11 both miss them too, so it's not just the 'older generation' who liked them!
Posted: 18:51 Tue 30-May-2006 by "jim" # permalink comment
Comment: stop posting on this thread, theres too many posts
Posted: 20:20 Fri 02-Jun-2006 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: that just goes to show the strength of feeling, jim - must be close to 300 now!!!
Posted: 16:52 Tue 06-Jun-2006 by "THE DEVIL HIMSELF" # permalink comment
Comment: IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, I MISS THEM TOO (BEEN WAITING FOR AGES TO SAY THAT, I DON'T GET OUT VERY OFTEN)
Posted: 15:27 Fri 16-Jun-2006 by "Ex employee" # permalink comment
Comment: I used to work at Lion before Trebor started sticking their nose in. One day they decided to make co. more streamlined and made all sales staff and quality control staff redundant. They brought in new production manager and totally wrecked the company. Quality went out of the window to meet targets and then they started making inferior maynards rubbish. Its a shame. As for licorice/licquorice vs blackcurrant it was always 50/50 preference.
Posted: 17:04 Tue 20-Jun-2006 by "Doug" # permalink comment
Comment: Just came across this site while googling to find out what Maynards have done to my beloved Midget Gems. I had been eating these since the early 1970s in Scotland (so not just a North of England sweetie).

Black was always my favourite flavour. I am now desparately searching for Lion Liquorice Tablets.


Posted: 17:27 Tue 20-Jun-2006 by "Doug" # permalink comment
Comment: Just came across this site while googling to find out what Maynards have done to my beloved Midget Gems. I had been eating these since the early 1970s in Scotland (so not just a North of England sweetie).

Black was always my favourite flavour. I am now desparately searching for Lion Liquorice Tablets.


Posted: 21:00 Tue 20-Jun-2006 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: just thought I'd get the 300th post on this thread... good to see that the 'bring back the liquorice' campaign is as strong as just over a year ago - and no Mr Campbell in sight!!!
Posted: 15:22 Wed 05-Jul-2006 by "safetygirl" # permalink comment
Comment: Bring back the liquorice ones. Pregnacy cravings for them driving me mad. My child will be born bad tempered........
Posted: 18:07 Mon 10-Jul-2006 by "itsnojoke" # permalink comment
Comment: I thought it was just me. I lived in the States for 10 years then came back home and used to love Sports mixtures. Bought a bag in the airport and opened it and it just smelled wrong - just like wine gums. Smells are one of our most powerful memories and don't lie. Death to the imposters. Long live the originals.
Posted: 19:25 Wed 12-Jul-2006 by "mad4gems" # permalink comment
Comment: Just come by this site.I AM SO GLAD I'M NOT ALONE. I've been eating midget gems and Sports mixtures all my life and I am gutted that maynards have destroyed the best sweets in the world. Bring back my midget gems
Posted: 14:54 Fri 21-Jul-2006 by "Rod" # permalink comment
Comment: Still buying Lions Sports with liquorice. Are they still making them? Anyone from Lion Confectionery out there? Still haven't bought Sports with blackcurrant.
Posted: 13:23 Thu 07-Sep-2006 by "Alperian" # permalink comment
Comment: I bring good news - Sort of, Hmm! I was recently at an Inland Waterways show at Beale Park, and in one of the marquess was a company called 'Allsorts of Licorice (liquorice). They sold me 200grammes of SMs just like they should be. Black liquorice. The bad part is, that I can't find them on the net. Further. There is a newsagent on Botley Road in Oxford who has some original bags of Lions SMs. Unfortunately they are a little (November '05 use by) out of date and oxidised. I was trying to decide whether they were any better than the Maynards rubbish and had to admit that these had aged to too much of an extent to be prefereable.
Posted: 23:48 Mon 13-Nov-2006 by "Greg Burrows" # permalink comment
Comment: Has anybody got the recipe for making gums like lions wine gums, midget gems? If we can find recipe we can start making our own. I miss them so much it is like hankering after a drug I can no longer obtain, bought a bag of sports mixtures today to see if Maynards may have relented, they have not and the s/ms taste of chemicals and are soft disgusting who buys these maynards rubbish I have put them where they belong in the bin. Regards Greg Burrows Dewsbury 14490
Posted: 18:22 Thu 23-Nov-2006 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: Hi Greg! Nice to see that this thread is still rumbling on... Perhaps Maynards will be able to supply you with the 'old' recipe, as they clearly do not want to use it! 18
Posted: 07:07 Wed 20-Dec-2006 by "DoKtor" # permalink comment
Comment: Midget Gems : Maynards have now dropped the Lions name altogether from their bags.It's disgraceful.They shouldn't have bought the brand if they simply intended to destoy it.The Maynards gums are disgusting,particularly the Blackcurrant ones.Bring back Lions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 17:01 Thu 26-Apr-2007 by "Alperian" # permalink comment
Comment: Do any of you have a plan? Does anyone have the addresses and contacts of Maynard's various companies. Has anyone got a contact in Lions confectionery that can possibly help? Has anyone got an MP in the constituency that Maynards produces their rubbish in? Perhaps not...Get Galvanised get going! TROOPS: IT IS YOUR DESTINY!!
Posted: 21:58 Sun 29-Apr-2007 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: very stirring, Alperian...
Posted: 22:24 Sun 29-Apr-2007 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: very stirring, Alperian...
Posted: 11:24 Mon 07-May-2007 by "Rob " # permalink comment
Comment: We have stopped buying sports mixture since they changed and no longer include the liquorice and I know lots of friends that have done the same. Bring them back and stop tampering with our favourite sweets! Has anybody else also noticed that Maynards Wine Gums in the bags seem to have been made smaller? Are any of these changes to do with what they think their customers want or to do more with production costs/profits. Yes - of course we all realise that companies are in existence to make profits - but what happens when you do not listen to your buying customers? They need to bring in Sir John Harvey Jones to help them get back to basics.
Posted: 22:45 Fri 11-May-2007 by "liqourice ninja" # permalink comment
Comment: what happened to mr campbell? did he die or just grow out of his addiction to defending the corporate that is maynards?
Posted: 22:25 Sat 12-May-2007 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: hello ninja. Mr Campbell appears to have kept to the promise which he made way back in July 2005 when he vouched that he would never visit this thread again http://www.snackspot.org.uk/thread.php?story=0504241312sbc#20050728134000 However, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he wasn't masquerading as one of the subsequent posters... ! It would be nice to see him again.
Posted: 00:09 Fri 18-May-2007 by "gelatine geoff" # permalink comment
Comment: asda midget gems are dead cheap and not that bad esp the grapefruit flavoured pale chaps
Posted: 10:19 Thu 14-Jun-2007 by "Alice" # permalink comment
Comment: I found your site very informative and helpful, thank you.
Posted: 00:50 Mon 15-Oct-2007 by "Andy Thompson"
(apparently posting from 88.106.53.242: ) # permalink comment
Comment: Been buying Sports (Not Sport)since the 50s when they were five for one old penny...1d.handful of Sports, Journey Into Space...under the blanket. Maynards have ruined them, no question.All you "Black Haters",it was a combination you dopes, you combined a black with one of the other colours, preferably red. I'm distressed.
Posted: 12:11 Wed 24-Oct-2007 by "graham b sport mixture avenger!!!" # permalink comment
Comment: sadly the maynards version of the sport mixture brand is a oaler immataion of the original. the gum is too soft and the flavour are at time to similar to wine gum. Forget al quida and the war on terror and global warming, this is the issue that need to be addressed maynards give your heeds a shake and revert bake to the lions recipe.
Posted: 09:39 Sun 16-Dec-2007 by "stevie b." # permalink comment
Comment: I am so glad I'm not alone! My family think I'm nuts, but I've been a Lion fanatic for decades, buying them from the time they were 1 farthing each. Now that the Lion brand has disappeared, we appear to have a perfect example for future generations of how smart young things with an MBA can trash a valued brand through ignorance. Maynards say the ingredients are the same - except for the beloved liquorice of course - but if so, they certainly don't taste or look the same. My guess is that Maynards have made shortcuts to the Lion manufacturing process. Perhaps some one from the Company would like to come on here and refute this??
Posted: 19:18 Sun 27-Jan-2008 by "zimsalabim" # permalink comment
Comment: Sorry to go off-topic, but can anyone remember Trebor's 'Salad Gums' - they were discontinued around 1999 / 2000 and when I knew the end was nigh, like so many of you desperate to keep the faith with Lion Sports Mix, I trawled the motorway service stations to hoover up the last of their distinctive blue bags. Since then, I've found no gum which hits the right spot.

Lion's Salad Mix, are too glossy in appearance and don't have the same chewability; same for the 'new' Sports Mix and the much-abused Rowntrees Fruit Gums. From memory, the Trebor Salad Gums had a matt finish and the sweets themselves looked like the moulded Rowntrees Fruit Gums, swollen by about a quarter in size.

Does anyone remember the Trebor line and can offer alternatives? I've tried Cadbury HQ, but it's the usual story of new faces being unable to either remember or reconnect with the past like we're in some Orwellian nightmare in which the past is another country and we no longer live there!

Cheers, guys -

Zimsalabim


Posted: 15:13 Tue 05-Feb-2008 by "kathymoger" # permalink comment
Comment: I too liked the liquorice ones in the Sports Mix and am disappointed. Slightly off topic but... as a fan of liquorice I've noticed that there seems to be a link between people who love or hate liquorice and Marmite! That is, over 90% of people I've asked who love liquorice also love Marmite and over 90% of people I've asked who hate liquorice also hate Marmite. As this is a small sample that I've asked I wondered if this could be backed up by a straw poll of the people on this thread who have commented on their love or hatred of liquorice.
Posted: 21:22 Wed 06-Feb-2008 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: hi kathymoger - as the initiator of this rather long-running (some might say *too* long running) discussion of the merits or otherwise of liqourice Sports Mixture, I love liquorice - but hate Marmite! How spooky is that? http://www.biskitz4cheez.com
Posted: 08:16 Tue 26-Feb-2008 by "Greg BurrowsI" # permalink comment
Comment: I am still missing Lions wine Gums and midget gems, why did they do such a thing to take away such a perfect product. I hope they do not believe in Karma that is all I wish to say.
Posted: 19:50 Mon 31-Mar-2008 by "biskitz4cheez" # permalink comment
Comment: it appears that the ORIGINAL Lion's Sports Mixture can still be purchased from here: http://www.sugarboy.co.uk/ [URL display truncated]
Posted: 16:13 Mon 21-Apr-2008 by "Adam Robinson"
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Comment: I am FURIOUS they have removed the liquorice sports mixture, I just bought them again hoping for the same snack experience and I can't believe there's no liquorice! Thatís really low of Maynards and I donít think they did their research properly.
Posted: 14:50 Tue 05-Aug-2008 by "angela major"
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Comment: I am really quite horrified that the liquorice ones have been taken out of SM.Been intouch with Cadburys and they said you can get liquorice tablets which are the same recipe as black SM, at 'The chocolate shop'at Cleckheaton they do mail order also number is 01274 878700.
Posted: 18:38 Tue 05-Aug-2008 by "elle" # permalink comment
Comment: i like the new sports mixture but have they stopped selling the small bags of them now?? I can only find the bigger bags and I swear they arent as hard and chewy as in the smaller bags!!
Posted: 20:40 Fri 03-Oct-2008 by "Barney"
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Comment: What a disaster, how on earth did maynards think they could possibly remake midget gems or sports mixtures that were PERFECTED by LIONS. The texture, taste, colour and everything is sooooo wrong about maynards that no one I know will buy them. We are all still big fans of the LIONS recipes.
Posted: 22:00 Sat 18-Oct-2008 by "Woodrow" # permalink comment
Comment: Lions still make Midget Gems and Sports Mixtures. Try any wholesaler.
Posted: 21:48 Mon 27-Oct-2008 by "Rick" # permalink comment
Comment: Like many others I have been disappointed and dismayed by Maynards decision to ruin what used to be the best sweets in the world. So I was intruiged when I bought a bag of SM from a garage in Smallford, Herts which contained what appeared to SM's similar to the old ones (except the black ones of course), Yipee I thought, they've finally caved in to public opinion and changed back to how they used to be. So I bought another bag 2 days later at a service station in the Midlands hoping for more of the same, and guess what?.......back to that crappy soft chewy rubbish they have the nerve to call Sports Mixtures.I was so disappointed. They should hang their head in shame for what they have done to one of the nations favourite sweets.
Posted: 15:21 Thu 08-Jan-2009 by "Pam"
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Comment: I also loved the black one and have'nt bought them since the change, but luckly some one gave me a bag of lions liquorice gums for christmas and also butterscoth gums. But i am unable to find them in the shops. please can you tell me where i can buy them
Posted: 16:27 Fri 09-Jan-2009 by "lucy" # permalink comment
Comment: you can get old liquorice ones and butterscotch gums from http://www.aquarterof.co.uk
Posted: 16:37 Fri 09-Jan-2009 by "lucy" # permalink comment
Comment: you can get old liquorice ones and butterscotch gums from http://www.aquarterof.co.uk
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